Aug 3rd 2010 12:31AM My thanks to everybody for the thoughtful replies. While I think it's interesting to compare international data rates - especially as carriers start moving away from unlimited data plans! - it just seems like a comparison of data plans exclusively for the iPad doesn't really represent the general cost of 3G data.
If we're talking truly talking about 3G data rate costs, lets look at some other tablet type devices. What about the Dell Streak, or comparable tablet options? I think the Streak AT&T too, so presumably it'll fall under the same category as the iPad, but I'm not sure about other countries.
Then theres the tethering option for android (and blackberry, I think users) - free tethering apps are available and go straight off your phone's 3G connection (which for most carriers is still unlimited, if I recall correctly). Hell, get an android phone and a wifi-only iPad, use the android wi-fi hotspot option - what's the cost of your 3G data now?
I'm just feeling like it might be relevant to point out alternatives, because it appears that AT&T/iPad lockdown is reason for the expensive plans.
Aug 2nd 2010 5:44PM @paul34
Fair enough - but is this a comparison of $/GB, or $/GB specifically for the iPad? Is there even a meaningful difference?
Aug 2nd 2010 4:23PM So is there anything about the iPad you guys won't post about?
I mean, "Are you paying too much?" Really? As if moving to Singapore to pay less for your iPad is really an option?
Jul 1st 2010 2:20PM You guys knocked the Droid X for not having a version of an operating system that hasn't been released to the manufacturer yet?
Don't you think you're reaching on that? Was it even possible for them to get it on the phone?
Maybe also ding it for "no 4G" (which Verizon also isn't capable of at the moment) and "no laser beams"...
Jun 30th 2010 6:25PM @Dafrety
You're dead wrong on the Facebook application part. I ran the free Facebook application fine on my unrooted G1, running 1.6. The official Twitter app does require Android 2.1, but there are plenty of 3rd party Twitter apps out there at support 1.5/1.6.
There might be phones that aren't capable of running the latest and greatest, most powerful applications - welcome to the world of software. This is nothing new, it's just how it works. Apple does the same thing.
Some applications require the latest version of Windows or MacOS, and if your computer can't handle it, you've got to get better hardware. Same thing here.
As a G1 user until a few weeks ago, I should should have been among the MOST affected users by this "fragmentation," if it existed. The truth is that I could do almost everything that every other Android 2.1 user could do, but it was just slower and not as snappy (TMobile's coverage isn't great in my area). So I upgraded and got new hardware, which enabled the newest version of the OS, which meant some new functionality.
Did I really expect to get the latest and greatest software on my old-ass 528mhz processor with a hundred megs of RAM? No, I'm not that presumptuous.
It would be "fragmentation" if somehow all of these versions of the operating system were going in different, incompatible directions. For example, if all existing apps that run on 2.1 do not run on Froyo2.2, then it would be something like 'fragmented' because it doesn't at least carry forward. But that's not the case.
As it stands, the issue is hardware obsolescence, not OS fragmentation.
Jun 30th 2010 6:08PM POOR Apple!
Thank GOD they have Vlad Savov & the Engadget crew to publicly defend their product's shortcomings and snipe at their critics!
Be vigilant, Vlad! I hear there's a perfectly good Android phone that you can go review and declare areas where it differs from the iPhone as "failures!"
Jun 30th 2010 2:53PM @Dafrety
Thats insane. I switched to an EVO4G two weeks ago from a G1. My G1 ran the Facebook app fine. I don't use Twitter, but I saw plenty of Twitter apps on the market with my G1.
Forgive me for sounding aggressive here, but WTF are you talking about?
Jun 30th 2010 1:48PM Again, with the scaremongering about "fragmentation."
Lets all say it together now:
IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD IF DIFFERENT PHONES RUN DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF ANDROID.
They all access the same internet, they're all interoperable on cellular networks, and Android apps run on all of them (as long as the hardware is capable of it).
The more you guys scream about "fragmentation" (which isn't even the accurate term anyway), the more it seems like you're running some kind of smear campaign. You've just decided that it's inherently a "serious problem" even though it's as close to a non-issue in the real world as possible.
Doesn't Apple do the same thing, with ios4 not running on the old iPhones?
You guys are the ONLY people who are paying attention to "fragmentation" as an "issue." Nobody cares, because it just doesn't matter to users, yet you're still beating the drum...
Jun 2nd 2010 4:56PM @Khav
Hmm... perhaps. I admit I haven't used a phone with MOTOBLUR, but it just struck me as odd to be so decidedly negative about a product that basically doesn't exist yet.
Jun 2nd 2010 4:18PM @TrumanHW
Me too. I use those two buttons on my G1 all the time.