Dec 9th 2009 1:42AM Not an issue, to be sure, but was it mentioned in the patch notes that people would get Explorer's League rep without a tabard on? Or maybe that's after exalted with Alliance Vanguard? Or not?
Dunno. But either way, yay! Easy way to grind out another rep for my title. :)
Jun 30th 2009 3:26PM Haha, the Star Trek music makes me want to see Star Trek again! Ack!
That was impressive; I really did enjoy it. Watching trailers/movies like this, makes me feel so good about my own characters. When you .. not so much RP, but think of it as being real .. it's fantastic. These are "people", mercenaries, who put their life on the line to fight back demons, monsters, and Gods.
It gives me chills. I love it. :)
Jun 4th 2009 1:50PM Just about enough to make me play a NE Druid.
Almost, but not quite. Why can't there be Draenei Druids? :(
Apr 14th 2009 6:06PM Of course they have. They've given several reasons.
1) The layout of the program is not as user-friendly as it could be. Arrows pointing up or in a circle aren't lending themselves to an automatic understanding of what they do.
2) The program loads at windows startup, and stays in the background uploading information, which,
3) Some people don't want being sent, which,
4) Isn't necessarily easy to find out how to turn off.
5) It doesn't find all the addons a person has loaded.
6) The program itself crashes often.
I mean, these are just 6 examples of reasons people have given. They are legit concerns. They are valid.
Apr 14th 2009 5:58PM >Please share them because none of your solutions so far have worked. Sorry, but they haven't.
Well, for one, you're not sorry.
Two, I don't have these other solutions. I'm simply saying that they do exist.
>If not, I can only suggest you yourself think harder and educate yourself a little more.
I am not required to come up with every solution for every problem that I encounter, comment on, or even argue about.
Again. The person stated a position that seemed very black & white to me, and I was offering that there are likely other solutions available, some of which were stated in this thread, and undoubtedly some which haven't been mentioned or possibly even thought of before.
>I'm not the one complaining here about what WoWinterface and Curse have done, demanding that they think harder.
I'm not demanding they do a thing. They can continue to block Wowmatrix all they please. It's their website to do with as they will.
>I'm fine with the solution Curse and WoWInterface have implemented, and leaving WoWMatrix to offer their own downloads on their own bandwidth if they want.
Well, so am I. If this is their choice, then all power to them. I don't agree with it, but that is far from their problem.
>Was my intent unclear to you?
What intent was that, exactly?
>Why are you demanding I present solutions when I'm fine with the ones that are being used?
And when did I ever demand anything of you, exactly?
Apr 14th 2009 4:41PM >>Sorry dude, but you didn't put any of your ideas in your post. You really should have. "well, you're just not thinking hard enough." comes across to me as somewhat asinine when you don't offer suggestions, even with minimal details. It's the sort of thing that doesn't offer much to discuss.
The suggestions and ideas were offered not in that specific post, or specifically by me, but by other people, and in other posts.
>>As for your ideas, thank you for posting them, I appreciate it. I'll examine their flaws as I see them:
As I said, I only had what other people were suggesting, and didn't have the technical awareness of whether they were necessarily good ideas, or how to implement them. Fact is, they were ideas, which it seemed apparent they hadn't considered. Theirs was a black & white view. Wowmatrix was doing 'a', their reaction was to 'b'lock it. Plain and simple.
>I don't see how this is a solution.
Nor do I. It was merely an idea. I have a minimal understanding of what an API is. It's a protocol that allows you to use information provided by the other entity. Facebook has APIs for their website; Sony has APIs for the PS3; Microsoft has APIs for Windows.
It does seem to me, that providing a method of retrieving the information without having to parse the entire website, would actually save them bandwidth.
>> company co-operation,
>And without that knowledge, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to castigate WoWInterface and Curse for not doing something they could have done and failed through no fault of their own.
And I am? I was offering ideas. Or, more specifically, indicating that other people had offered ideas that I thought should have been looked in to, when faced with a person whose statement indicated that they had not.
>Not that throwing money at somebody who is costing you money is necessarily a good solution. I believe in some cases they call it a protection racket.
Companies buy other companies all the time. I obviously have no idea as to the worth of either of these companies, but buying a competitor and using their products as your own is often good business. The best ideas often come from elsewhere.
>>developing their own client which people aren't in overwhelming agreement that it sucks.
>A non-solution, as it doesn't deal with the actual problem.
Of course it does. Wowmatrix filled in a necessity. The most successful products fill a void that previously wasn't known to be there. Coffee shops exploded into the market, not because people were incapable of making coffee at home, but because -- well, to most -- it's more convenient for someone else to make it.
If Curse released a client that wasn't absolutely horrible, one that was developed closer to what Wowmatrix currently does (and doesn't) do, then Wowmatrix would become redundant. The 'market', as it were, would correct itself.
>>I'm sorry, but I just don't think you're thinking hard enough as these solutions you offer? They aren't the miracle solutions it appears you think they are.
I certainly never claimed they were a miracle anything. I am not an expert, I am merely offering thoughts and opinions as to other solutions when it was -- again -- indicated to me that the people at Curse viewed this as a black & white scenario.
Are they perfect? No. Do they work? Maybe. Are there other solutions that could be considered? Absolutely. Are you offering any?
Apr 14th 2009 3:31PM I can't tell if that was a hostile reply or not.
I have thought of other ways. I've already commented on them. Several of them. I don't have the technical proficiency to go into details, but I am aware of the general ideas & concepts: APIs, company co-operation, buyouts, developing their own client which people aren't in overwhelming agreement that it sucks.
Lots of choices.
Apr 14th 2009 3:03PM You _wouldn't_ continue "this" way. Nobody would.
But if you really think your only options are allowing it to continue where -- as you put it -- "one side is doing all the giving(us) and the other side is doing all the taking", or, blocking the program and alienating all the people who used the program ... well, you're just not thinking hard enough.
Apr 14th 2009 2:34PM Actually, here's the better solution:
Curse and WowInterface can blow it out their kazoo, Wowmatrix opens their own website with their own advertising, which hosts all these wonderful addons, which doesn't block the entirely more useful wowmatrix program.
Apr 14th 2009 12:44PM I don't think you're listening, honestly. Several people have replied to your comments (causing me to wonder why I would be responding to yours, I suppose) stating that they have tried to use the new Curse Client (v3.0), and they found it lacking in every sake and manner.
As I recall, the problems stated are:
1) The program runs in the background, and loads at Windows startup. I agree; I don't want a damn thing running the background that I ... don't, want, running, in the background. I run Wowmatrix once, when I start wow, and it's done.
2) It sends information back to Curse.
3) It's a resource hog.
4) It crashes a lot.
5) It's not user-friendly, having to use tooltips to understand what the buttons actually do.
So. Release Curse Updater Version 4.0 that:
Doesn't run in the background, or load at windows startup. Doesn't crash, or obviously, is significantly less prone to this. User-friendly -- one-click to update all addons, when I choose, not when the program realizes there's something new. Doesn't send information back to Curse, or provide me with a readily available, obvious button that says, "I do not want to send information back to the corporate cowards with kneejerk reactions".
And viola. More people will use your crappy client.