Apr 30th 2008 11:09AM Most ret pallies have heard of Prot, you can say the same as Fury/Arms Warriors wanting to DPS in raids. Why I am ret, I like my 2H, I like to see big numbers, And I hate spamming. I opt to not spam flash of light, and I opt not to spam consecrate thank you very much.
Apr 30th 2008 11:03AM I wasnt saying that we dont offer anything else besides Damage, I was simply saying that our utility is unique right now, we do as much damage as most of the bad rogues along with offering more then just a kick, when it comes to MH we are always on top of the charts due to our consecrate, on a sidenote. I am sorry for cursing off the OP but it seemed like he wanted to take our job away. It took ret pally's a long time to get where we are at, a lot of the healers hated ret getting buffed a few patches down when they they got nerfed. Seemed like the OP was one of those Holyadins that wanted to see ret dead.
The server I am on there were 2 guilds that brought ret pally's in to raid, my first guild who just downed Illidan which I quit before we even killed vashj, because they made core members roll against a scrub rogue that wanted tsunami tallismen and gquit after it. I quit this guild a numerous amount of reasons besides that I all of a sudden didnt have a spot because I couldn't OT and the raid leader replaced me with a scrub rogue. Gear was one of the other reasons, sure I got great Warrior DPS gear, but I never touched any teir 5 which pissed me off due to the fact that a high council rogue brought in his rogue to get all my T5 and after the rogue was geared he brought in his drood to get geared. I was fed up with the guild and left.
The next guild I went into their were a lot of scrub players, hunters didnt get buffed yet so they were down on the charts, the warrior in the melee grp didnt know how to rightfully dps yet so he was down on the charts, and a lot of the raid wasnt geared, I was in my warrior dps gear and topped the charts numerous amounts of time. My sacrifise to this guild even though I didnt have any tier crap, I always had something just as good, so I passed on all that junk to progress. Now with all the buffs to hunters and what not it seems like we have to fight harder for DPS, and a raid spot. As Duke pointed out raid leaders want more then just refreshing.
Point said, this just lowers our utility and gives higher credit for a raid leader to say "Hey, why bring you when we can get another class that can do equal or better dps, when a healer (which raids need) can do your job." Sorry for snapping I just saw a lot of Retnub's topics on the forums, and most of the topic starters if not werent the class, were a holy paladins.
Apr 30th 2008 12:29AM I don't know guys, the OP is a complete tart and knows nothing about what Ret means to raids... Hmm if I had the choice to bring a pally into a raid that has to fight for DPS to begin with against useful classes with more UTILITY, or make him spec HOLY and offer some of the UTILITY that ret once had, I would prob have to say, fuck you retadin, spec holy or your not going, we up dps for other classes sure, but when some classes outdps you you tend not to care about the retadin. Most guilds find ret retarded to begin with, you are trying to fucking nerf our spec more. Sorry I am bored outta my mind healing for 2 years to see progression, I hate alts, they are worthless and a waste of time and space in raids, so I refuse to make one to sort of have fun with the game. Most retadins are at their wits end with the game because we are broken, and our own Class wants to break us more, Dukenukem is a knowledgable Pally. And the OP can go fuck himself. I vote everyone vote megas's posts up, and delete this fucking article from WI.