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Never Caught Your Guy Watching Porn? Here's What to Expect {Lemondrop}

Jul 29th 2010 6:19PM Speaking as a man who still jumps when discovered watching porn, I think it's entirely possible his reaction has nothing to do with you. My parents are devout Mormons, and growing up I had to be *very* quick on the draw to avert catastrophe in the event they walked into the room while I was busy lusting away. Now, of course, I'm grown and living on my own and don't care a fig whether someone catches me watching a woman fucking on film, but it's still not easy to overcome years of teenage conditioning.

Ask a Lore Nerd: Alliance leaders and strange mythology {WoW}

Oct 6th 2008 4:37PM I answered your first question after you asked it last week, though in hindsight I was a bit wrong.

First of all, the Earthmother is worshiped pretty well exclusively by the taurens. It's possible there are small groups or individual orcs or trolls who also revere her, but for the most part the Earthmother is a strictly tauren thing.

That said, for most of the Horde races, the moonkin having been created by Elune would probably be a sufficient explanation. The tauren are different only in that their mythology describes Elune as just one particular aspect of the Earthmother, so most of them would probably attribute the creation of the moonkin thereunto (just as they do with everything else), but they're not likely to pitch any sort of fit if the night elves don't agree with them.

As for draenei DKs, I think it's pretty safe to file that under "Blizzard loves them some retcon."

Ask a Lore Nerd: Cenarius, C'Thun, and the Titans {WoW}

Oct 1st 2008 7:04PM I don't know about your other questions, but the first is answered fairly simply.

You seem to be projecting the origin of the orcs onto the rest of the Horde. In fact, since the Third War when Thrall reformed the Horde, the orcs are the only race therein who aren't native to Azeroth. The tauren, who are the only druidic race in the Horde, have lived in Kalimdor practically since the dawn of time. It's likely they predate even the elves, as they have confirmed oral traditions recounting events as ancient as the birth of Cenarius. While it's true the tauren aren't the favorite of Elune like the night elves, it's no stretch to believe they know at least as much about the moonkin and why they exist as the elves do.

As for why Horde/Alliance Boomkin models look different, I'm fairly certain that's just a matter of flavor, much like the differences between tauren/night elf bear and cat forms.

Ask a Lore Nerd: Now now, there's enough Light for everybody {WoW}

Jul 29th 2008 7:04PM Dire Maul is what remains of Eldre'Thalas, the former capital city where Azshara and the Highborne lived. After the Sundering it was partially destroyed, with the remaining three districts today being the ruins of Dire Maul.

The ogres originally came to Azeroth with the first Horde, led in secret by Gul'dan and the Shadow Council, and more prominently by Blackhand the Destroyer as the first Warchief. For reference, Thrall was born in 2 ADP (After the Dark Portal) and spent ~15 years growing up in Durnholde Keep as Aedelas Blackmoore's slave.

Ask a Lore Nerd: The Evil-o-Meter {WoW}

Jul 2nd 2008 9:25PM "I think the "more in tune with nature" argument doesn't hold bc then nightelves and tauren should be ideological allies."

Actually, it doesn't hold because of political events.

It's true the night elves and tauren would seem like natural allies, and they well could have been, if not for the fact the orcs simply got to them first, as it were. When the tauren were being hunted to the brink of extinction in by the centaur, it was the orcs who came to their rescue. The night elves, presumably, were too busy sitting in their ivorywood towers and constantly reminding each other how much better they were than everyone else to even notice the tauren were in danger, let alone actually do something about it.

There's also the fact the tauren weren't admitted into the Cenarion Circle until during or after the Third War, when Hamuul Runetotem met and befriended Malfurion Stormrage. The tauren had been practicing druidism since long before then, true, but up to that point the (lack of) lore seems to indicate the two races didn't have much to do with each other.

There's also the fact Fendral Staghelm, who was second in command under Stormrage and has since risen to lead the night elves, objected to the introduction of the tauren into the order.

So we have:
±1 "Similar culture, but not really connected" point for the night elves
-1 "Staghelm is a cosmic dick" point for the night elves, and the biggie...
+1 "Saved our race from extinction" point for the orcs.

I'll freely admit some of the reasons given for some of the faction alliances in WoW are tenuous, at best, but the reasons for the orcs, trolls and taurens to be allied are all pretty rock-solid. At least as much as those given for humans, dwarves and gnomes.

Know Your Lore: The Scarlet Crusade {WoW}

Jun 6th 2008 2:32PM It's both. The sword itself and the one who wields it are both referred to as the Ashbringer.