Jun 17th 2008 7:07PM These new talents and abilities really don't appeal to me in the slightest. Lemme tell you I just spent a half hour of my life trying to pick out what is decent for pve and what isn't. The elemental tree is hard to fiigure out anyways. I have a few issues with it. I'm not sure if you have seen the shaman alents yet or not, but most talents are garbage. Worthless in most cases except for pvp. The new ae spell we are getting "thunder" is a very situational pve talent infact I think it's there for pvp. Astral spirit seems a little ghetto and extremely luck based to me. The second tier in the elemental tree is also no fantastic still, it's garbage now and it'll be garbage in the expansion.