Aug 29th 2008 12:49PM @ Doc X (#8).
If you want to fix Mind Flay, you're not doing yourself any favors asking Blizzard to treat like Arcane Missiles. There's a reason why the only way Arcane's been remotely close to viable since the MSD/TLC changes is by 2pT5 and Arcane Blast spam. Maybe Missiles can crit, but the damage scaling is atrocious.
Just might want to consider a change in wording if you're ever in a position to give feedback (like on the PTRs).
Jul 13th 2008 11:14AM For 7/6/08: 30 across, 26 down.
i c wut u did thar.
BTW, my first thought to mage ire was "warlock", too. What I went with was "OOM". Shamen's Hex doesn't really bother me. :)
Jul 13th 2008 10:15AM @Elyx
The problem is, while we have of minor annoyances which are persistent throughout the life of any leveled mage (think blink's spottiness), things really start to get noticable PvE side when you reach T6. Scaling is really bad since warlock's scaling is absolutely OP.
I suspect T6!warlock is beyond Blizzard's comfort zone for a class's OP situation (based on changes upcoming to Wrath, we know they don't like the direction of destro shadow in T6). However, because of the way they designed their raid encounters they can't just bring warlock damage down to something more reasonable now. Thus, they're addressing the situation at the expansion reset.
In Karazhan, you're not going to really see the stark damage component of what's wrong with this class. I guarantee it. So know that going in. You might realize whatever's wrong with mages PvP-side at a more entry-level, but I wouldn't know: I'm no one to give input about mage PvP as I can't stand it, and won't PvP with my mage even to get best-in-slot gear PvE wise. I do my PvPing on my healing priest.
Honestly I don't mean to insult you, but if you truly want to know whether or not a class' perceived situation is real or just QQ, you'd probably get more accurate results just from reading the theorycraft at Elitist Jerks' forum. (I can't do math to save my life, so they're an excellent resource for me especially.) It's really hard to assess the problems of a class in the PvE side of things without having seen more of the class in PvE than Karazhan.
Another example, I'm leveling my feral druid and she's only 46 now. At this point in time, I would say that feral is super OP, but I know from research that bear butt tank itemization is truly crap and you have to arena to get gear in some slots. That's the perception of a feral far higher than my own baby 46, and while I'd say feral is fine, there's a whole other subset of feral in endgame which is not fine. (I don't believe you should be required to PvP to reasonably obtain PvE gear.)
Just goes to show how random factors like level or progression can mean the difference.
Jun 29th 2008 12:54AM As a person raiding with a mage main in T6, with Hyjal cleared and Illidan attempts slated for Monday, I dearly hope someone with power over mages at Blizzard is reading this.
My mage was my first character, back when this game was shiny the way it only can be on your first character. So my mage is my dearest, and I desperately want to love the class.
But everything this blogger has written at the end rings true. Every time I go to Quel'Danas now, I flinch seeing K'iru's Song of Victory. Knowing that one of mages' essential raid utilities in arcane intellect is phased out in the last dungeon of this expansion...disheartening can't do it justice.
I wish I could have faith Blizzard will treat this class right in the next expansion, but that trust is gone.
Jun 28th 2008 2:16PM Tom Chilton is Kalgan.
Kalgan on BC mages in BC: "jaw dropping damage"
"raw, unadulterated damage". If that's a direct quote, doesn't look that different from before, does it.
I'll believe it when Elitist Jerks examines the theorycraft in comparison to the rest of the damage classes. Otherwise, it's just talk. Again.