Mar 24th 2010 9:25PM I didn't get a chance to read through all the comments yet, so I'm not sure if others have experienced this, as well. But, on two occasions, recently, I've felt mini earthquakes in the bank/ah area of IF. I thought to myself about it and wondered if it was Cataclysm related, but just brushed it off as some fluke.
It certainly could have been a fluke, but if it was caused by one of these shaker mobs, that is just too cool for words. I would love it if lots of x-pac stuff started happening in the near future, such as this. :D
Mar 21st 2010 2:09PM Wow, I fail at reading today, lol. That'll teach me to dive into commenting, after half-sleep reading an article. x3
An ability that I could use irl? Oh man.. probably a lot of utility based ones: Like the conjure foods or drinks of mages. Definitely swift form, is still a possibility. Find minerals, find fish. Pally bubble is still up there, because even irl, it would be OP. Slowfall, resurrection, cleanse, or mass dispel.. too many to choose! I can't pick just one.
Mar 21st 2010 2:03PM As for an ability that actually exists, though -- Stealth, Vanish, Invisibility, or the pally bubble. Maybe, swift flight form. :3
Mar 21st 2010 1:57PM I want the ability to be entirely immune to rogues. Immune to everything rogue related.
1. I would freak them out by waving to them and blowing them kisses, while they were stealthed. Especially, the undead rogues.
2. When one sapped me, I would turn around slowly to face them and frown, expressing just how ashamed I was of their behavior.
3. When they stunned me and began to try and burst me down, my little gnome 'lock would /giggle and /dance with them. If they kept trying, I would do my /train emote, to give them hope, like the "Little Engine That Could." And, when they finally gave up, defeated, I would hop on my Sea Turtle mount and waddle away, nice and slow.
Mar 20th 2010 7:30PM I really enjoyed this article. I was actually wondering about the plagued proto-drakes, to be honest. And, was hoping that in these dragonflight articles, one about the plageud drakes might appear. I don't feel the article is a waste at all, I really enjoyed it. Thanks so much!
Mar 19th 2010 6:03PM @Crowqueen - I very much agree with all that you've said. I think your way of going about expressing your thoughts was also very classy and fair.
I, too, feel similarly to you and many other readers. I may not agree with everything Robin said in the article, but I respect her enough and her opinion to fully read through what she wrote and be fair with my comments, in regards to the matter.
No two people are exactly alike; we're extremely complex creatures. We each take something different away from these types of situations and experiences. And, while we may not all agree with one another, we owe it to each other to listen and learn what we can, from our fellow man. And, we owe it to ourselves to broaden our educations and knowledge, based on the wisdom of many different minds.
Mar 19th 2010 5:53PM Extremely well said and beautifully honest. I can't agree more.
Mar 19th 2010 5:45PM I think that this is a completely appropriate place for such an article. I read wow.com every day and I'm thrilled that such an important and complex issue has been brought to the readers' attentions.
Yes, WoW is a game and as games go, it's not serious. But, it's also an MMO, where real people interact on a daily basis. That being said, I'm grateful for Robin's article and all of the input that it's brought forth.
I completely agree with The Dewd -- "It's significantly more important to help someone get help when they are battling than it is to worry about how to tell someone not to pull aggro in Serbian. The game will go on for most of us but if someone decides they're going to end it all, there may not be another chance. This is not to say that untrained people need to try to act as a trained mental health professional but it's important to do what you can."
Mar 19th 2010 5:29PM I have to agree with many of the folks in this thread. As someone who's known and lost people, both close and not so close to me, to mental illness and suicide, I'm aware that suicide is a selfish act. However, for me, I don't feel the whole situation is as black and white as it may seem to some.
Suicide is a selfish act, yes. However, it's a gray kind of selfish. Yes, it's selfish to want something that will inevitably cause your loved ones pain. It's also your life and while they're suffering with you, they are -not- you. You are suffering greatly, as well. And, you're in a state of mind that is so foggy and clouded that it's only natural that you might lose your balance and fall down.
Not taking over the family business, because you have different dreams for yourself than your parents may have, is a selfish act. It will inevitably hurt them. However, it's a gray kind of selfish. While taking care of those we love should be one of our largest priorities in life, taking care of ourselves should be a large one, as well.
That being said, please don't mistake my sentiment. Suicide is, of course, not okay. I am in no way condoning it or trying to say that choosing to positively move forward on your life path, which may be different than what your family wants for you, is the same as having the desire to end your life. They are not the same thing, of course. However, the type of selfish is similar. It's that gray selfish, that has its own definition.
Wanting to end your life is not a decision made out of happiness or hope, or a healthy state of mind. It's a decision made from a loss of hope, fear, and from the feeling of defeat. It's never the answer and it will hurt everyone you love and who has ever loved and cared for you. It will be selfish, on your part, to put them through something so horrific. But, it will also not be about them, in any way. Just like turning down the family business and going your own path, is not about your family; it's about you.
When a person is thinking about putting themselves in harms way, we seem to glorify those who do it for a greater cause, ignoring that it will inevitably hurt those they love, as well, in some way or another. (firefighters, military, law enforcement, etc) But, when a person chooses to put themselves in harms way, for a reason that is too difficult to understand or not for a greater cause, we lose all compassion for the pain they must be going through, to put them in such an unhealthy state of mind.
Both reasons are slightly selfish. But, what changes our perception of these acts is that one is done with good intention and coming from a bright and hopeful place, where the other is stemming from sadness and a dark place.
When a person tells their parents, siblings, partner, or friends that they want to become a Firefighter, it's often bittersweet. They're proud that this person they love is willing to put themselves in harms way to do something incredible and to help other people. They're proud of the sacrifices that their loved one is willing to make on an every day basis, for the greater good. But, I don't doubt that plenty of their loved ones would prefer them get a much safer job. But, because saving lives, even when it puts yours in danger, is a noble choice and career, it's not looked at as selfish.
But, ending your life, to save no one, (other than yourself, in your warped and clouded view) is considered one of the most selfish acts. It's not noble. It's not for the greater good. And, because of this, people forget that it's the decision being made by someone in exceedingly and unfathomable pain. No, they aren't thinking clearly about how much it will hurt you or their mother, their father, their best friend. And, that's very selfish. It's also human. They aren't seeing clearly. And, sometimes just telling them how much such an act is selfish and would hurt those people who love them, is enough. Sometimes, that can be the thing that turns it all around for them and helps them hit rock bottom. And, other times, a person is so far gone that even that realization isn't enough.
No two people are exactly alike. And, no matter how much we learn and understand about mental illness and specific conditions, we can never truly know every single possible way that it will unravel a person and their mind. There are too many variables and as human beings, our minds are simply too complex. That complexity, the same thing that makes us so beautiful as a species, is also what makes us so capable of darkness.
Hope is one of the most dangerous things a person can lose. And, sometimes, not even the love of people in your life can fill you with enough hope to continue on. Because, sometimes a person's mind can be so clouded that they can't see what's right in front of them.
And, on a side note: Some people will threaten or discuss suicide, but don't ever intend to go through with such an act. They may have themselves convinced they will. Or, as the OP said, they may be doing it in a manipulative way. However, it's more likely that they're not attempting to be manipulative, but rather reaching out their hand for help. The fact that they are talking about such things is a good sign. Well, as far as good signs can go involving suicide. It is quite possible that it's a cry for help. And, a cry for help is far better than the quiet person, who never tells a soul what they're planning and eventually goes through with such a horrific act.
To Nameless Rogue: It was very kind of you to talk with this mage, during the instance and to show him that sort of generosity and understanding. I'm sorry that it eventually lead to such an awkward conversation, later. Chances are, he may not have any real friends, just as he told you. And, it seems your kindness has lead him to feel comfortable confiding in you.
As Robin said, it's not fair for you to be saddled with such a burden. And, you may have enough issues in your own life, that being roped into such a troubled reality will only make your own obstacles that much harder.
And, yes, that's selfish of anyone to lay a burden like that on a stranger or even on a loved one. However, he simply may be looking to you for a little hope. Maybe the kindness that you've already shown him has been enough to help change his way of thinking, in the end. People often underestimate the power of a smile, a kind word, an outstretched hand, or open ear.
But, no matter what happens or what's to come, you are in -no way- responsible for any decision that this poor soul makes. They are ultimately responsible for their own life and the decisions they make regarding it. This is not your burden to bear. It's obvious that you are a good person with good intentions. And, so it's understandable that you'd feel the way you currently feel. But, no matter what happens, this is not something that should weigh on you or your conscience.
All we can do is leave those things and people we encounter, better than how we found them. And, you've already accomplished that. You gave him someone to talk to. If for even a split second, you gave him someone who cared. That's maybe more than he had before the two of you spoke and that's enough. I know it doesn't feel that way, but it has to be, for your sake and sanity. You don't know him and you have no access to him physically.
All of the suggestions that Robin gave you to handle the situation are spot on. She knows her stuff and she couldn't be more accurate. Just remember that there's only so much you can do.
To any posters who have lost someone to mental illness, I just wanted to say how sorry I am and that I feel like there are some pretty amazing people who visit this site.
And, Robin, I think you're incredibly brave for being so open and honest with the readers about some of the obstacles you've encountered in your life. I really respect your pov on the matter and courage to speak about such things.
Best of luck to Nameless Rogue, the Mage, and anyone who's suffering or knows someone who's suffering in a similar way.