Nov 9th 2008 11:48AM oops...
Nov 9th 2008 11:48AM Hallewwwwww
Sep 16th 2008 3:57AM My blood elf priest will be happy to have the skills, but I agree with earlier posts that they pretty much couldn't think of any new cool talents so they slapped other talents on us. That's not to complain about the power of the class, but I do like the diversity aspect the talents once gave us, and this is coming from a blood elf, who isn't exactly given up to par racials.
I guess it just leaves me feeling dejected that new cool talents ( warlock metamorphosis ) are handed out; whether it be mostly aesthetic or not; and we're handed recycled spells, and improved shadowform. Ohh, how very very innovative and creative devs.
Sep 10th 2008 6:36PM IMO, LOS shouldn't apply to channeling spells, especially with the new arenas having more obstacles to work around for LOS. Doesn't seem very fair that you could just walk 12 feet behind something and do away with the main focus of DPS. IMO, i'm still wishing they would include an arena that doesn't have ANY los because it should be about skill, not who can throw more DoTs or slowing abilities and then run around a wall for an hour. But I digress.
I am underwhelmed by the priest changes, but this is great news for starters. Keep throwing some buffs our way! Off-topic, I'd still like to see a shadow priest AOE talent...Not wonderful, but holy tree gets holy nova. We should get an equivalent so we can grind lower instances with more efficiency than SW:P spam and drink. Shouldn't have to have a specific class to grind some money the old fashioned way. Just a thought.
Sep 5th 2008 1:09AM I don't think this is a game killer, or even a damaging force in the game. The player base is already in the millions, how many of those "incompetents" do you think will be added by the system? The majority of players will still be experienced, and will guide the less advised should they hit level 70 before they know what the game is truly about. IMO, as stated above, it IS from 60-70 that you really learn the ins and outs of your character. I have played since release and I never felt as 'into' my character as I do since BC release because it added a lot of skills and playstyles that were previously uncommon or unnecessary.
Also, as stated above, it is said that most people are using this to level alts. I agree that this claim is true, and think it is even more useful than leveling alts. A lot of players who, like me, started anew come BC, whether it be on a new account like myself or on a new server from before. I'm not by any means a "casual" player in the sense that I spend a lot of time playing and tweaking this and that, and finding out what works and what to macro, item hunting, questing, etc. but I find it hard to level an alt really only in the time sense. The time it takes to level an alt is time that I could be racking up arena points or working on raising money to horde up for LK. The recruit a friend is an Elune-send for this.
I've played my share of everything before, and I know almost every class to the point where if you handed me a 70, i wouldn't be running around like a chicken with my head cut off. A lot of players fall into this category, I'd imagine, and so having the ability to level an alt that you didn't want to before makes a world of difference.
There's only three kinds of people I can see getting angry about this; those who put an insane amount of work into the game to level characters, and I applaud the effort, but still, a lot can't play that way. Second is people who have no friends to recruit. Finally, people who have never had to farm on a priest.
Sep 2nd 2008 4:25PM This will be especially nice if they make our talent that increases the crit chance of MB and SW:D affect flay too...Maybe then I might spec into it...I'm very relieved, and hope this is, in fact, just the beginning of a lot of good changes. I'd love to hang around the top of DPS charts easier almost as much as I loved being the raid's energizer mana bunny.
Aug 31st 2008 8:50PM It's kind of silly to compare spriest to other classes/specs that are "getting overlooked" like warlocks "are." All 3 warlock specs are dps, so whether or not you get updates in all 3 trees, you still have trees to rely on to do what you like to do. Shadow priest isn't that way. We heal or we dps, there isn't really a happy medium hybrid. So either we play a spec we don't want to, or we play something that is nerfed.
People here might be over reacting and saying they're abandoning ship, as it still isn't final, but c'mon, blizz needs to do some changing, and they're taking their sweet time with us spriests.
Aug 31st 2008 2:45AM Though you're right about the probability of DPS buffs coming (one must hope) I find it hard to sit by idly when priests keep getting nerfed, where they aren't even updated to begin with. It is hard to see that priests are often overlooked in the class updates on sites like WoW insider or world of raids, and when i do see them, i often wince anyway, wishing they had released nothing.
The largest "changes" i see are nerfing skills to allow for talent points in other places. This means that a shadow priest will have the same skills now, with talent points to spec further into discipline. Call me crazy, but I actually prefer the system the way it is now. Where a shadow priest is shadow, because they want to be DPS and utilized in raid wide setting, as well as debuff and dispel, with healing ability in PVP.
IMHO, blizzard is becoming lazy with the "make all classes cookie cutter copies of each other by removing differences per person." A fine example of this laziness is the fact that they are making armor sets usable by anyone by armor rating rather than specific sets.
Spriests need more than a buff, they need an overhaul. Glad I recruited a friend and got lock and hunter up near 60 to go into northrend instead of my spriest and hpriest. Might as well spec them both holy and sideline them the way things look.
Aug 26th 2008 4:27PM bestial wrath pet red
Aug 24th 2008 7:55AM Spriests need some serious work done if you ask me. I almost exclusively play my spriest now and it is very alarming to log on to World of Raids every day and see more news and assurance that druids, warriors, and death knights will be able to tank equally, while giving absolutely no word on how spriest is going to stay a step ahead in LK. The closest thing to news I got about spriests is the post that stated that they won't be the exclusive mana batteries anymore, with ret pallies stepping in.
It seems to me that in an effort to make all things (classes) equal, blizzard is completely screwing up in places such as this. Saying that we were OP in BC is a really ridiculous argument if you look back to pre-BC. Do you recall anyone raiding as shadow priest? Fixing spriests in BC with some good group skills to go with good DPS made the class worth having. If you ask me, as it stands, the balance is relatively even, although spriests do have spots saved in raids for regen.
Suppose a 25 man takes 4 shadow priests ( which i don't think is a valid assumption to begin with, because most raids I have mana batteried in, there have been 2, with an odd 3 maximum ), 4 healers, 2 tanks, then the rest are pretty much whoever wants to go, as long as it isn't 15 rogues or 15 locks, of course. Now cut down the 15 to account for druids, pallies, and shaman all having valid healing specs, and you're left with mage, rogue, warlock to fill 15 spots, with the occasional off-spec ( read dps ) of the aforementioned healing-capable classes. That's 5 of each class, not counting those listed, and even so, the usual DPS classes have more members going than spriests. Let me guess, you play the role of a disgruntled off-speccer who feels dejected by someone being more useful than yourself?
I agree with Eisengel in the regard that priests need to be taken more seriously as someone who uses darkness and destruction to heal. We are still priests after all. Right now it feels as though spriest is heading down a road that leads to it feeling like a toned down warlock with a few gimmicks to make us feel different. I say gimmicks due to the fact that even our quality skills, VE and VT, are toned down now so that other classes can compete with our utility.
Even those have needed reworked long before though if you ask me. Warlocks have plenty of skills that deal damage AND heal, and life tap, drain mana, etc. to regen, while shadow priests get left out. I have no sour grapes towards locks, and am not one of those QQing about OP, but it makes sense for priests to share in some of these types of skills. All because we have one skill that regens mana for a party, we have to be nerfed.
A spriest rotation goes something like : VT, VE ( situational ), SW:P, SW:D, Mind blast, flay until something else cools down or needs reapplied. SW:D is another situational because you obviously hurt yourself, requiring a healer to pay attention to you, and it can barely be used on some fights, such as karazhan's prince to name an example, or anything that has a lot of AOE damage output to the raid. This puts you on a 4 spell rotation. All the glitz and glamour of mana regen just got reduced to a relatively boring rinse and repeat cycle before your very eyes.
It is in my opinion that spriests need to be looked at a lot more than other classes by blizzard, because it has shifted from an amazing PvP class that couldn't raid pre-BC, to an amazing raid class during BC, while never reaching it's potential of being great in both at the same time. The closer LK gets, the happier I am that I have other level 70s in reserve in case my spriest gets as overlooked as it seems it may.