Apr 3rd 2012 3:19PM "Improved Horde," that should say.
Apr 3rd 2012 2:42PM I'm getting even more cynical in my young age.
Thrall left the Horde to Garrosh, Garrosh has military victories across the board, and then Thrall comes back to lead the Horde once again without having to get his hands dirty with any of the stuff Garrosh or Sylvanas have been up to, even by association.
Apr 3rd 2012 2:24PM I know we won't be able to defeat the Horde for gameplay reasons, but if we're going in with the *aim* of doing anything other than destroying the Horde...
Apr 3rd 2012 8:27AM PvP for me was one terrible WSG loss after another.
Thank God I got what I wanted and vendored my PvP gear.
If you've got a goal that requires your team not being a combination of idiots and bots, don't bother. Or do rateds.
Apr 1st 2012 10:01PM There's a difference between mechanically bad (and in Vanilla both sides suffered from this due to this game being Blizzard's entry into the MMO genre) and thematically bad.
Apr 1st 2012 8:32PM No, at least some of the victories have to be against the Horde. Otherwise we're doing nothing but clearing out all the unaffiliated "evil" and "monster" factions that would otherwise threaten the Horde's eventual dominance of everything.
Apr 1st 2012 8:30PM Er... going to do more, I should say.
Apr 1st 2012 8:26PM The difference there is that post-neutral Thrall was always Horde first. He didn't suddenly sit on his thumbs staring at the Forsaken blighting everything outside his door like Tirion is. Thrall talks about Garrosh, about Cairne--say what you will about the content and handling of the Elemental Bonds questchain (Especially the list of guests and Fandral completely ignoring everyone present he hates in favour of prioritising a person who would only become a figure dangerous enough to be targeted due to a short story set after the event)--but Thrall goes neutral in the correct way. He's even going back Horde again; we know this for a fact.
When, pray tell me, is Tirion going to stop doing more than writing a strongly-worded letter to Sylvanas?
Apr 1st 2012 8:15PM I was a Horde player back in Vanilla and TBC until I quit, and an Alliance player from Wrath onwards after I came back. I made a Horde alt mid-Wrath to experience the pre-Shattering Old World, and I'm currently clearing those same zones out again before Mists potentially changes the world (albeit in small ways) again.
Vanilla and Wrath were predominately neutral expansions. Alliance themes, factions and architecture were used for the majority of those groups, but they were neutral factions nevertheless. TBC and Cataclysm were Horde expansions (Velen has done more for the Horde--orcs and Blood Elves alike--than for either his own people or the Alliance).
There's literally nothing to be proud of as an Alliance player. We don't get victories--and certainly not moral ones, as they involve leaving the enemy alive and actively helping them out so they can slaughter us again in the future.
We don't get good storytelling--whenever anything has to go neutral to save on development time and effort? It's an Alliance something. Whenever anything has to get cut? It's an Alliance something. Whenever anything goes right for us, it's stuck in a book where it won't affect the Horde players--or soon, God forbid, in a scenario.
Hell, Wolfheart was set in a book... in the past... set after a questing experience that as far as I'm aware, made absolutely no mention of the army of monsters used.
Our leaders don't do anything, and the ones who do are utter trainwrecks of badly-handled characterisation (To be fair, the Horde has Garrosh "do a 180" Hellscream). Our old heroes--Jaina, Tyrande, Malfurion--are pale shadows of their former selves.
I'm Alliance--not because of Blizzard's best efforts, but despite them. Perhaps it's the fact that we're the underdog both in-universe and in the fandom that draws me to the Alliance. Perhaps it's my stubborn nature. Whatever it is, it may not last very long if Blizzard don't prove they can actually write the Alliance and all its associated races, cultures and factions.
Apr 1st 2012 7:50PM (the tensions between the Council of the Three Hammers are evident.)
The only hint I ever got of Council tensions--hell, the only mention I can recall of the Council at all--was the end of the dwarf 1-5 starting zone.
The Wildhammer (at least in Twilight Highlands) suddenly dislike the entire Alliance despite working alongside us in the Hinterlands against the Horde-backed Revantusk trolls, and the Dark Irons are the same bunch of "always Chaotic Evil" quest mobs they've always been.