Mar 19th 2009 10:45AM Holy Paladins. Those teams have Holy Paladins.
Mar 19th 2009 2:53AM Ret pallies are OP in PVP, middling in Arenas and underpowered in PVE.
What makes us great in PVP is next to totally useless in raids.
I don't want to be top DPS. Why should I be? Paladin's are great tanks and great healers, it would be unreasonable to be top DPS as well. But I don't want to kick out such poor DPS that a raid leader would have to be desperate to bring me along.
The insanity of the situation is that our damage is getting nerfed. GC says he knows it's too low and he might do something about it, but then again he might not. Talents are getting taken away and nothing being brought in to replace them.
To people who say we are OP - roll a Retadin, get the best gear you can, go raid, get out DPS'd by some talentless DK and then come back here and eat humble pie.