Apr 30th 2011 8:05AM you know its amazing how many of these same posters scream and denounce kanack for making "mary-sue" characters, but when Metzen does it to their favorite Horde character suddenly its all "OMG BEST STORYLINE EVER!". Like lets be serious for a moment, giving anyone that kind of power weither they be Alliance or Horde is going to ruin the story, trying to say they be impartial is a joke. I don't care how much you 'cleanse' his soul, if it comes down to saving either the Alliance or Horde, which one is he going to choose?
Apr 11th 2011 5:52AM Found it, its from the Lands of Conflict book that states basically "Razed by the Horde in the First War, Stormwind City required a small army of engineers and artisans in order to begin a massive program of reconstruction. After restoring the city to its former glory, the workers gathered outside Stormwind Keep to collect payment for their services. This came as a surprise to the nobility of the city, who had assumed that the work was being done as a matter of civic pride. Whether they were unable or simply unwilling to proffer payment, they immediately ordered the workers exiled from the city. With only the tools in their hands and the clothes on their backs, the workers were forced out of Stormwind and into Elwynn Forest." taken from the Wowpedia quote.
Apr 10th 2011 8:56PM And in Beyond the Dark Portal it says it was mainly a charity case, so someone screwed up some writting here. "When finally their work was complete, they gathered outside the House of Nobles to receive their payment, only to find that the nobles had never intended to pay them, and that they had thought the Stonemasons' work was out of charity. The leader of the Stonemasons, Edwin VanCleef, demanded that the Guild be paid for its work, but the nobles flatly refused. Outraged, VanCleef riled the Stonemasons into a frenzy, and soon riots broke out that spread throughout the whole city, the Stonemasons vandalizing the very buildings they had just finished. Soon the chaos got out of hand, and a stray stone struck the queen of Stormwind, Tiffin Wrynn, on the head, killing her instantly."
This quote is not from the Beyond the Dark Portal, I use that as a reference that Nethergarde was rebuilt as charity, so its not much of a leap to think Stormwind was as well. So one of these books is wrong, I'm trying to find where the quote from above came from, I have it in my Warcraft Lore pad(yes I am that big of a lore nerd) , but forgot to list its location, appologise as I look for its origin.
Apr 10th 2011 8:09PM There is a slight part your missing, many of the nobles though the stonemasons like everyone else was rebuilding the city out of the kindness of their hearts. The stonemasons never set upon a price or anything for their work. In the beyond the darkportal book Vancleef builds Nethergarde keep and doesnt ask for anything in return. Some nobles may have been corrupt, but raising the defias up to be in essence robinhood esque bandits is alittle ridiculous and casting the entire leadership of Stormwind as evil and manipulated also alittle off. When someone does charity work, and comes to you after it and demands payment, considering everyone else is pitching in without asking anything in return, its bound to start a situation.
Feb 14th 2011 11:37AM Just curious, but it seems everyone forgets the passage in the last book of The War of the Ancients series, where the three chained Old Gods refer to using the Burning Legion to escape their prison, and when they do they basically will flick Sargaeras aside like he is a flea and bend the Burning Legion to their will or destroy it. Maybe I'm wrong in this but Sargaeras doesnt seem like the big baddy when he can be easily taken out by three weakened chained dudes. I know the other TFH edition where they talk as if were the biological weapons of the Titans to kill the Burning Legion, but it just seems weird were destroying Gods that are more powerful than Sargaeras and he's the end game. Doesnt seem right.
Jul 31st 2010 12:31AM Actually check me up and you might be suprised at what I've done. But I really like how pretty much everything I said was turned into Elitest vs casual instead of actually reading what I was saying. They arnt getting 11 people and losing 10, I'm not saying all the casuals need to die and leave the game. I'm saying EVERYONE is leaving, everyone i know from casuals to hardcore to elitist pricks. They are bored, running the same instance that is a joke. And to the person that says "oh do you have every piece of gear and everything else" Sorry mate but you know beating a boss in an instance isnt cool the 12th time you do it, or the 15th time you do it when its on Hardcore, its the first time you finally get everything right and get it down. Thats something that has been missing from wrath that everyone I know misses. Steamrolling an instance on normal with 20% buff, then trying to go back and do it on hard mode is stupid. Most people dont care, even elitists dont care cause that satisfaction of getting the boss down is gone. It all then becomes about the gear. And sorry to dissapoint but really, most hardcore dont care about the gear, they care about it beign a challenge the first time, not month(s) down the road doing some hardmode. But flame away, truth will win out when Cataclysm sale numbers are released.
Jul 30th 2010 12:55PM While I have to admit I sort of have this kind of attitude as well, I have it in a different way, the casualfication is actually damaging the game, not cause it allows casuals to play, but because its making the game too easy. Most of my hard core raiding friends have left cause theres no challenge, nothing to grit their teeth on. You might say oh well let them leave game is better without them, but all my casual friends have also left the game, including myself in the last 3 months. Its not wow burnout or expansion burnout. They just have been trying to deny something that is finally thrusted to the fore front. All of wrath has been too easy, and people dont like games that hand them everything on a platter. You can file this in elitest attitude if you like, but if both hardcore and casual find your game boring and too easy, guess what, no ones playing. And when no ones playing, you dont have a game. Friends have even stopped playing the beta for it being too easy, which has made me question weither anyone I know will be getting cataclysm
Jul 22nd 2010 9:53PM Or even better, Mark Hamill, His Joker voice is just crazy enough that changed slightly could totally pull off a good Deathwing
Jul 22nd 2010 9:52PM James Earl Jones would have made a much better Deathwing
Jul 6th 2010 4:48PM "I am very disappointed in you Blizzard. You're better than this. Perhaps you have been hanging around with a bad crowd because we did not raise you like this. I don't know if you think it's cool or "dope" or whatever the slang is to invade the privacy of your community, and give out their personal information, but it IS NOT. If you were younger I would take a belt to you, but you are old enough to know better. Your mother and I aren't even so much angry as we are sad because of your actions and attitude. I'm just glad nana isn't around to see this"