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The surreal concept of neutrality in Warcraft {WoW}

Mar 21st 2012 9:36PM The issue is not with the fact that the Forsaken are undead, it's the fact that the forsaken are forcing undeath onto people. Being undead makes you a victim, raising others makes you evil.

The surreal concept of neutrality in Warcraft {WoW}

Mar 21st 2012 5:55PM Then don't take the time to update the faction if you're not going to update them correctly. Blizzard didn't touch the Zandalari tribe for the better part of six years before they integrated them back into the story. Blizzard took the time to show the Argent Crusade fighting against necromancy in Tyr's Hand and Stratholme, to show them trying to rehabilitate the land in Western Plaguelands, and then they don't even acknowledge something going on right on their doorstep that violates all of their principles they've made a point of showing them having?

If Tirion was still wearing leather and loitering in a shack on the Thondoril river, I could see that as a justification. But that's not the case here.

The surreal concept of neutrality in Warcraft {WoW}

Mar 21st 2012 5:50PM Most of the elves didn't take their commitment to the Arathor line seriously, the government of Quel'thelas sent a token force of observers to discharge their responsibility. Alleria took her rangers to assist the Alliance against the orders of her superiors. The rest of the elven forces didn't aid the Alliance until after Orgrim torched the forests of Quel'thelas and corrupted their rune stones with demonic magics, and Turalyon led half the Alliance army to save Quel'thelas. After the war, the elves pulled out of the alliance immediately, which prompted the Gilneans to pursue their isolationist doctrine. The elves didn't come back to help the alliance during the third war until well after the Scourge had gutted Lordaeron and moved on to smash Silvermoon.

That's pretty much the story of the Blood Elves, outside of the living Windrunners, the elves were, and always have been, jerks who can't be trusted to help with any problem until it comes to their land and burns down their forests. Vareesa's followers in the Silver Covenant were the only elves remaining with whom their oath to Arathor would have carried any weight.

as for the Tauren/Alliance relations, Blizzard has no idea what they're doing with them. In one zone the Alliance burns down Turajo, in another zone the Alliance allies with the Grimtotems, in The Shattering the Alliance helped push the Grimtotems out of TB and gave shelter to Baine, in thousand needles the Alliance fights against the grimtotems and captures the occupied Freewind Post, only to give it back to the Horde for some reason. It's like watching a dating show, only both people are bipolar schizophrenics.

The surreal concept of neutrality in Warcraft {WoW}

Mar 21st 2012 3:27PM Alliance players enter WPL through Chillwind, and quest through Andorhal before moving onwards to the lumber camp. The Horde breadcrumb also leads directly to Andorhal first, and the Horde players are already massacring farmers and raising them before the Heathglen quests get led to.

@Ilmyrn

The Forsaken are massacring farmers in WPL, the same zone as the seat of Tirion's power. This isn't New York not knowing what's happening in LA, it's New York not knowing what's happening in Yonkers. Also, keep in mind that WoW isn't a medieval setting, it's a setting with tanks, and jet aircraft, and messengers have the ability to teleport across continents. While it might not be as effective as Twitter and a smartphone, news travels fast in Azeroth.

The surreal concept of neutrality in Warcraft {WoW}

Mar 21st 2012 1:49PM "Too long have I sat idle, gripped in this haze... this malaise, lamenting what could have been... what should have been. Your death will not have been in vain, Taelan. A new Order is born on this day...an Order which will dedicate itself to extinguishing the evil that plagues this world. An evil that cannot hide behind politics and pleasantries. This I promise...This I vow..."

Bold words from Tirion Fordring. This is the man who led 300 crusaders against the full onslaught of the Lich King's forces. The man who carved a path across Northrend, facing enemies far more dangerous and numerous, to batter down the gates of Icecrown Citadel. Ever since his son's death, his entire character has been built around rooting out evil no matter the odds against him. And you're insinuating that after all that, he's afraid of two dying races? When he has his own personal kingdom to use as a base of operations, not to mention the only arable land for miles, and every fortification along the line that reinforcements from SMC would have to march to link up with the Forsaken.

But Blizzard thinks he has more important things to do, like build more statues of himself while the stretch of Lordaeron that they've worked so hard to reclaim from the blight is replagued and corrupted, again.

Mists of Pandaria: Siege of Orgrimmar {WoW}

Mar 20th 2012 3:53AM Alas, they've made it official. They're giving the office back to Green Jesus, completely undermining any chance for the Horde to actually evolve in terms of their characterization. GG.

Mists of Pandaria: Siege of Orgrimmar {WoW}

Mar 19th 2012 3:51PM 1) That comment was made months after the release of patch 4.2.

2) The quote wasn't "there's more for Thrall" It was "Your Warchief is coming back." And combined with his recent comments about Garrosh's reign was always intended to be brief, and it's looking like it's going to be Thrall.

Mists of Pandaria: Siege of Orgrimmar {WoW}

Mar 19th 2012 7:26AM Metzen actually stated explicitly that Thrall would return as Warchief last august. I'm hoping that he's not using this scenario as the vehicle to accomplish that, because it would be absolutely terrible storytelling if he were to simply discard Garrosh at this point. It would undercut the fundamental requirements to creating a compelling story in so many ways.

http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/07/23/thralls-return-to-the-horde-and-more-lore-from-san-diego-comic/

WoW Insider's Mists of Pandaria coverage {WoW}

Mar 19th 2012 3:56AM Nothing on raids beyond "there will be three of them."?