Dec 17th 2008 2:21PM why would druids want haste? the global cooldown on melee skills cannot be reduced below 1second and that's what it is at now. i think you need to do some research on how to play a druid and what stats they want.
haste is only good for a feral druid in that it will grant more omen of clarity procs, and give faster attack speed, nothing more.
Dec 17th 2008 2:12PM i have never once had an issue with any sort of aoe tanking and i really don't know where all the problems from people are coming from. i'm in naxx10man gear and heroic loot, wearing quite a few blues from heroics still.
honestly i feel the issues that these people are having is not knowing your druids stats.
my swipes 5man buffed crit for roughly 1000-1200 and this is with me using the pvp idol from venture bay - it grants +swipe and maul damage, very useful. i also have glyph of maul and my mauls hit for about 2500, and crit for upwards near 6000.
i have about 35000 hp 5man buffed and near 43000 naxx10man buffed, i also sport 40% dodge and roughly 8% miss unbuffed, raid buffed this is much higher. that's nearly every 1 out of 2 attacks being avoided in some way.
as to not being able to manage threat, are you bears whining about threat hit/expertise capped or at least have a decent amount of it? in my regular raid gear i have roughly 6% to hit which is enough to always hit with specials on level 81-82 mobs. i also have 10.75% reduced dodge and parry chance which should nearly mean all of my attacks are hitting the mobs in front of me.
also i haven't heard a single post about berserk - mangle hits 3 targets. i pop berserk when i have to manage exactly 3 mobs, and guess what with berserk active i do more dps than my hunter friend who has 4k dps. and since i'm out dpsing him guess what, i have more threat than him!
all this QQ and moaning about omg bears suck bears suck bears are the worst tanks, in my opinion it's coming from bad players. we may have to work harder than warriors/paladins at aoe tanking since our swipe only hits in a frontal cone but guess what, you fail to think of the other attacks that warriors/paladins have that ONLY hit in front as well. holy shield - requires a block - frontal only. shockwave - frontal cone only. swipe - frontal cone only. the ONLY thing warriors/paladins have on bears is consecrate, and thunderclap, and honestly in my opinion they can have it.
Dec 12th 2008 3:04PM it's being increased by an even higher speed multiplier than 50%
Dec 10th 2008 3:13PM "So.. how about Druids? In cat form and bear form there is a set swing speed, so haste has 0 effect. It can only effect moonkin/tree/caster form... but these forms require spell stats like int, spirit, and spell power."
this is just false. cats and bears do not have a set swing speed and DO benefit from haste. my cat's swing is 1.0 normally and i go down to .96 with my current gear. also a heroism takes me down to about a .65 attack speed.