Mar 4th 2009 9:56PM Jack of all trades, master of none.
You think that DPS only classes aren't entitled to be top at what they can only do?
Take it into the real world, you can chase the best damned salary in the world, and forfeit leisure time, time to build relationships, just for the big dollars and all the time sunk into developing your skills to do so.
Or you can balance your life, settle on an income that gets you what you need, and some wants, have a family, spend the time to smell the roses.
You think the latter deserves as much (salary wise) as the first, without all the time sinks, without sacrificing all for the job? Sure it can happen, if you have a someone who's just simply a smarter person, and needs less time to become technically competent. There's always going to be those people who put in minimal effort and reap maximum rewards, but that outside of the scope of WoW.
But this is a game, and things have to be balanced and it's a level playing field. Life has a balancing figure, it's called time. Theres only so much you can allocate in one week. Without claiming to know how Blizzard balances, I'm sure they have a measure as well.
See my point?
That said and done, I'm a mage and I'm yet to see Pallys come near the top of the meters. I don't think theres an issue with then being OP or UP, just people who think they're OP get fooled by their ability to AoE very effectively. I'm currently rolling a Pally to see what the QQ is about though.
Feb 26th 2009 10:09PM I think this game needs to identify 4 categories of players, in average time sink order:
Raiders (want it ALL ASAP)
Gamers (want it all, but in their own time)
Casuals (just want the opportunity to have it all)
Scrubs (want it ALL ASAP, but without putting in effort, often are very bad players too)
I respect 3 of those players. Who's the odd one out?
But do let me go on, I'm a casual in every sense of the word. I work full-time as a finance professional, pulling 60+ hour weeks. On weekends (can't play weekdays) I normally just log to raid, do a few heroics, and clear some important dailies (i.e. Hodir). I've been playing for 3 months and am one of the best dps in my old guild and could quite easily go head to head with most on the server, am geared for EoE25 (wow-heroes), have all needed skills and mounts, and have plenty of gold to spare. I don't wrap my life around the game, but I play to my best when I'm there.
I'm not in a rush to get anything done, yet at the same time am surprised at how easy it is to get gold, get geared, and be competitive. It's refreshing, but I can understand the more hardcore getting a bit annoyed due to simplicity. But when something like this comes out, I'll get excited at the possibility of owning it and it's a nice goal to work towards.
And due to this I totally understand Anoms reaction on page 7 too. I don't work as hard as my boss (I manage sleep daily) so I don't feel like I'm getting shortchanged because I don't drive the car she does, nor do I have a beautiful collection of LV luggage, nor do I eat at the best restaurants in the world. But I can drive a car, do own luggage, and I eat. See the point I'm getting at?
Feb 26th 2009 9:13PM I can't speak for hunters but in a Mage perspective:
AoE Farm Spec
Feb 26th 2009 5:26PM Completely off topic, but this freaked me out a little because IRL I know a married couple called JJ and Allison.
Feb 24th 2009 11:14PM @dan
All the mounts as they came refers to I purchased everything as soon as I was the minimum level to do so (including cold weather). I was only not able to afford the Artisan riding @ 70 because 5000g at that level is still not the easiest.
I was simply outlining the fact that some people seem to have trouble holding anything over 100g, I'm guessing it's the same kinda of people IRL who are always complaining about not getting paid enough but splurge all their money on smokes, booze and entertainment right?
Most guilds that ask for contributions aren't exactly casual either btw.
Feb 24th 2009 7:01PM Since when has this become the World of Whingecraft?
Dual-spec isn't something everyone will really use, yet people are complaining because it's there, and because it's there, they have a right to it. I've been playing for 3 months, and my main afforded all the mounts, as they came, excepting of epic flyer.
Did I farm? No. Did I buy gold? No. I just quested to 80, and while out questing, if I found a node of ore, I clicked on it. Then I subsequently sold it. Yes, just random gathering encounters (this applies for all gathering skills) was enough to buffer me up. It didn't require elitist knowledge of the game, it just require a mindset that said, oh, that gold dot on my map is some ore!
What's with the sense of entitlement for everything in the game. People want easy raids, people want everything given to them. Ever played a Final Fantasy? Every killed the weapons in FFs in which they appear? No? Because they're optional bosses, and very difficult challenge which often drop the best gear. They take a lot of time to get maxed out to kill, and a high level of skill and concentration, but in the same notion you don't even have to KNOW about them to beat and enjoy the game. If someone was to QQ about how the weapons were too hard to beat, they'd be laughed out of the century - because that's the point.
That's the essence of a true casual player. You're not entitled to what can be considered OPTIONAL content. Dual-spec is mainly for those who are knowledgeable about their class and will find a lot of USE out of respec'ing continously. A dps warrior with enough off-spec gear to be able to fill in a tank position if LFG requires it. A guild whom rotate their raid roster to give everyone a chance to tank and heal should they desire it. Most people that don't fit into these categories often don't need a respec to play that role (as mentioned many times), and will suffice with the simple respec function. You don't need it, now stop friggin wanting it just because it's in the game.
Jan 19th 2009 2:18AM I find in a lot of PuGs I run with there is a lot of passing due to the fact that one already has the gear, and the drop is for a class that isn't present.
In such cases I normally state that loot should goto the tank for repairs (it's only courtesy since they're soaking hits). There has been moments where we've continued the run without anyone picking up the loot... we're all there just for the experience, shards (if it's up) or for fun really. No real bickering on loot.
In fact when someone needs it's always a case of "Mind if I need guys?", or someone shift+clicking their current gear and matching it against what dropped as to justify...
Must be my server that is more polite (or meek) than most? (Kul Tiras)
Jan 13th 2009 10:40PM @ jabbfire (just in case comments stuffs up)
Amen. A little side-tracking, but I think the ability to jump straight into a fresh Heroic is dependant on the player nowadays, as a consequence of WoW being an overall easier game.
I notice the marking thing too! Once I was in a PUG and I kept DPS'ing down skull, then I noticed I kept having to FN + blink... due to the fact the tank wasn't even targetting skull :S, and everyone was randomly DPS'ing.
The lack of skill shows up too, for example, when in Nex one time, I quickly brushed through the encounter with the archmage lady, and how everyone should focus and DPS down one copy while the other two are CC'ed safely away (2 mages in the party). What did everyone do? Yeah, randomly picked a target to hit, while the tank abused AoE.
I often get the healer in the group /w me about why no one is listening to instructions, or following the efficient way to take on the fight... CC'ing seems to be a dead art when you can rely on the healer to tear his/her hair out during the fight.
And just for the record, I pull about 1000dps at 72, in quest rewards only, and with AoE making up 5% of my damage (mage). If you can't hit 1000dps as that class... I don't know what you're doing.