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The Azeroth Ethicist: Special I.W.I.N. edition, part 2 {WoW}

May 5th 2009 6:15PM How delightfully intelligent, Adamanthis! :)

[1.Local]: The theory, debate, controversy and scandal edition {WoW}

May 3rd 2009 2:23PM Hoggersbud,

If he was told by other players, it's unfortunate he didn't listen to them. It would have saved him some trouble. However, their advice does not come from authority. Blizzard has still failed to warn or notify him before removing his privileges. In fact, the last interaction he had with them was them giving him the item!

If it were me, (I am a cautious person) if I'd had any idea I could be risking my account by using it I wouldn't have. I would have listened to my buddies. But I shouldn't be legally held responsible if I don't.

Can you quote specific lines from the Terms of Use or EULA that could have fully informed Karatechop he was about to commit an infraction? If so, I'll be partially subdued. I still think, however, that because it is so obvious that Blizzard erred first, they should be apologetic and understanding to the guy.

[1.Local]: The theory, debate, controversy and scandal edition {WoW}

May 3rd 2009 2:12PM I still can't get passed this glitch though:

How is it exploiting if I don't know it's exploiting? Sure, there are many that would know it was a developer's item or overpowered GM item (hence "Cheater"), but not everyone would. Some might even see "Cheater" as a joke, some (like me, until now) inherently trust that things one gets from Blizzard are intentionally given.

And if you are one of these people you probably don't know its wrong to use it. So of course you want to try it out on something tough enough to have a good laugh at--why not end game raids?

I don't say it was the smartest move, or one that showed the greatest spirit of game equality, but its not something he can be faulted on based on a specific clause. Even the Terms of Use's

(i) Using or exploiting errors in design, features which have not been documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players;

doesn't clearly apply to it if you don't KNOW its an error in design. After the fact, when you are informed it was an error, then you can see how it was a mistake. Still, its wrong to ban someone (remove a paid for product) for something not clearly stated in a rule book somewhere that a fool couldn't have predicted (because, as you know, many fools play the game, and as such, rules should be designed for them as the lowest common denominator).

[1.Local]: The theory, debate, controversy and scandal edition {WoW}

May 3rd 2009 1:51PM Well yes, now I do.

But millions of wow players do not read WI and are not aware of the Martin Fury Scandal. If it were to happen again (haha), these people should not be expected to know. I, being a relatively non-computer or game-savvy person, didn't even know what a developer's item was for years after I started playing--probably others don't either. There's no requirement or disclaimer on the game when you buy it that you may be banned if you don't read up on computer game development culture and process. I don't think Karate can be banned for doing something that he was never warned about, especially when he payed money for the service of game access. Generally, I assume everything the game lets me do is legal, otherwise, why would the game let me do it? Call it simplistic, but its a fair assumption to make. If a large number of people would have acted the same way without intended malice, Blizzard must either make their rules clearer or their punishments slacker.

[1.Local]: The theory, debate, controversy and scandal edition {WoW}

May 3rd 2009 1:10PM Karate, its easy and somehow empowering for people to judge and ridicule impulsively, especially after the fact. Just try and see the hundreds of messages condemning you as hundreds of people celebrating a chance to ride their high horse, and not much more. Certainly don't take it personally. I can't imagine anyone having any real injury as a result of your actions.

Honestly, if it were me, I wouldn't even have considered opening a ticket. I don't know what I would have done with it, but I wouldn't have opened a ticket. First of all, I've never opened a ticket for anything--I have a (probably unfounded) doubt that anyone reads those things at all. Second, I have a (probably unfounded) great faith that Blizzard is in control and not in the habit of making mistakes. It wouldn't have even occurred to me that some foolish employee would have the power to give me such a weapon (errr...shirt). In fact, I would have probably messaged my closest buddies and waited for peer pressure to inspire me.

Noblegarden: Sexy or Sexist? {WoW}

May 1st 2009 10:10PM ^ This. It's important to be aware of objectification and make sure you aren't propagating it, such as equating "gay" with "bad" or "lame". Though I have gay friends that say "gay" in this manner, it doesn't mean it doesn't have social and psychological consequences. Being aware that it might and finding a different word doesn't take a lot of effort and shows a bit of wisdom.

That being said, it's important to recognize what sins of this sort are acceptable. Humor is often based on being naughty and I for one love it. I personally would be disappointed if Blizzard was too scared of moralists to have the odd quest/achievement like this. As a woman I'm not overly offended and even if I am somewhere deep down inside, on the whole I'm more amused.

To all the angry folk:
I think its uber important to always maintain a balanced view. This discussion isn't absolute crap. It's not particularly earth-shattering, either. But some people apparently care about it. Leave that to them instead of trolling if it bores you.