Jul 13th 2009 2:21PM Well it's not really the end of the world either if you do 50 dps less.
Bypassing your profanities I will have to say that running Ulduar for 4 resets and not getting a mail belt to your liking doesn't really give you the right to complain about the non drops. Simply you had bad luck at Razorscale and he didn't drop your blue belt. I've not seen him drop the mace the last 11 resets but I'm not complaining too much.
You on the other hand have something to look forward to. I rarely do.
Jul 13th 2009 2:09PM Deciding who will get a loot that drops is being done with the various loot systems.
If you're in a guild that officers decide who should get what, it can be really good, where everyone is rewarded for his participation, or really bad , buddies get the loot.
You're essentially questioning if the loot system is correct or not.
My guild is using DKP. I get awarded DKP for boss kills. We only raid Ulduar so we dont inflate our points with Naxx kills. Typically only the first raid night awards DKP. The other nights is just wiping on progression. I never miss a run, and I rarely take any loot because I'd rather stick to something that has better itemization and is a tier lower that take something that is direct downgrade cause I have to.
Now imagine if the few pieces that drop and I'm interested in, I'm not allow to bid for.
I will pay a huge price for it, probably in weeks' worth of DKP. It IS an upgrade for me and a pretty good one. If you deny me that upgrade, I will keep raiding with you. But you will replace me because I'm not cutting it as a class anymore.
Jul 13th 2009 1:45PM @Luckedout: Forgive me if I was abrupt. In the current state of how things work, I'm not the happiest player on earth. I would of course not gquit. I would not be happy either.
I dont expect my officer to know what my BiS is. I dont care about BiS. I care about an item that can improve over what I have. You're talking about me not caring about the guild. On the contrary I do care about the guild. I do care about my ability to keep my tank alive. Denying me that ability on the sole basis of the item not being plate is narrow minded. I won't roll, I will pay for it. I'm going to pay for it with hard earned DKP. Dont turn against me for having to do so. It's not my fault. I see it the same way as you. I dont like having the shamans as candidates for a piece. I would really prefer to be able to roll solely on plate spell. After all I'm the only who can use it right ?
Jul 13th 2009 1:33PM Guys you're all missing a point.
Just because a holy paladin can use plate doesnt mean he MUST.
Imagine how it would feel if your class had all its drops in Ulduar be a tier lower. FE all your gear in Uld 25 would be ilvl 213 when everyone else's is ilvl226.
That's essentially what's happening for holy paladins. In their current implementation of game mechanics mp5 is as useful for us as potatoes. Now there are SOME mail drops that have optimal stats for us. Why would you deny us the right to roll on it. Automatically excluding us from it is a sign of not knowing how the game works. I WILL use my precious DKP to pay for it. And if the next boss drops plate spell, I dont care, my naxx gear is better than that. It's an upgrade only for very badly geared paladins.
Get your facts straight guys before you start flaming people. I dont WANT to be obliged to take MAIL. I HAVE to though
Jul 13th 2009 1:12PM You should seriously take a look at holy paladin gear itemization in Ulduar.
Now imagine playing a holy paladin, and being denied to roll on mail, just because it doesnt state the tag "plate". I would poke my eyes out and gquit,reroll,transfer pick your choice.
Blizzard is making our life hard with all the "new and exciting" changes they are bringing to the class. If we dont expect support from our co-players, I dont know where we can turn to.