Nov 19th 2008 6:34AM holy crap. seriously
The RX is an RX because of the motor/rotory and all things that encompass it.
1) is light weight.
2) small size (apparently only a few get this)
It's incredibly small and light, this allows many more opportunities in balancing out the cars weight ratios. You can move it up, down, forward or backward. You aren't limited to stuffing 100% of it in front of the firewall. For example the RX has roughly 60% of it in front of the firewall and the rest tucked up where the tranny would be if the mzr motor was stuck in there. The rotory is something to be designed around.
It can be stuffed in many suit options, but it's potential (despite how limited by power) can't be harnessed if it's just dropped into any regular or performance car.
Another point, if you dropped the lovely MZR in or a V6 as others are stating, it becomes just like every other car that already has that configuration. It loses it's driving characteristics drastically for simple lust for that power.
I too would love a faster RX8, I've wanted one since day one and intended to get one, but other things changed and I made some small consessions. Regardless, I could perhaps consider it with an MZR but still, it'd lose that hot knife in butter control that's made me grin over and over in some course work and test drives.
Nov 15th 2008 8:40PM @ Steve Bennet
wow...umm, about half the time? My turbo doesn't kick in till 2200 and it's not soon enough for my tastes. I don't care if I can beat a car by 10 lengths on the street if I give the other car a 4 length jump on me. Hell, it's normally over by the time you catch up. *unless you have magical city blocks that are much longer then mine* At least with the massive power one could enjoy the loser fly by. yay.
Oct 16th 2008 2:32PM if i'm not mistaken, i believe even euro ford's use mazda/volvo designs. ie. drivetrains, (some) engines, and other various parts. Essentially, if true they'd still need them
As for the first portion of your comment, they don't get everything from Mazda/volvo. Ford likes to tinker a bit and try making their own thing. That sometimes ends with less then stellar results. Chances are ford goes "i like that, but i also want to add this and maybe this. also, could we cut costs a little somehow?"
Plus, it's not that the cars themselves are bad but that once they make it through fords hands they cheapened up the interior and sloppied up the exterior to what they think American's really want.
One could argue that they do a good job of it because they sell more then mazda or volvo's versions of the same drive train and I won't argue with that but that just never computes in my head. There's rarely a Ford outside & inside I actually can tolerate for longer then a test drive. To each his/her own though.
Oct 16th 2008 2:16PM hardware...ie control arms, frames, etc.
these cost to manufacture but in effort to save $ ford does the manufacturing of them internally/vendors/whatever for mazda/volvo while being allowed to use their designs and mazda/volvo gets the manufactured design.
so they aren't giving good design, just good hardware from their design.
Oct 11th 2008 9:52AM to add to all those bitching about VW reliability:
My co-worker desperately wants to convince his wife "to ditch their VW for anything else". He's told me it's just been in the shop too much. "It's a nice car...it's just raping us in the wallet with repair costs."
I don't own a vw or a m3/ms3 so I can't say anything to either's reliability.
Oct 11th 2008 9:41AM meh...everyone and their short memories.
the old P5 also was a stellar handler, felt peppier, and somewhat faster to the auto press when the m3 came out.
If by chance it's not feeling up to snuff for the loyalists...turn off your nostalgic glasses and allow yourself some time to tune in to the cars soul.
Rest easy, Mazda has never destroyed their compact car. Each iterneration improves little by little unlike their midsize 626/6..etc. They appear to have always been intouch with the smaller segment. This even holds true to the 6 prior to it's physical bulking up. As the smallest in the class, I certainly found it one of the more or most enjoyable ones.
Oct 9th 2008 7:38PM "I don't want a turbo in that car."
Hell, you talk as if you're going to be the one an only one to get it and I've heard enough from you to discern you'd never pick one up in the first place.
Besides a damn turbo can be restrained to produce a linear curve for those not interested in a quick power plateau. Like wise, Mazda could offer (or worst case aftermarket support) the removal of the limits just like the limits placed on the ms3's early gear/s.
Aug 2nd 2008 12:47AM holy s***...wow, lots-o-whining despite maybe 1 of you might actually buy the car.
Jul 6th 2008 4:23AM nope you're doing fine.
last time I read one of your comments many missed the sarcasm and i figured it fitting that you aren't left standing alone trying to bring a little light: both to the situation in the companies as well as the emotional atmosphere.
Jul 5th 2008 3:56PM AAHHHH! DOOOOMED!
Mommy I'm scared. What would the world be like with out the impressive performance of the pontiac minivan?!