Feb 12th 2010 8:17PM Emohealz, that would be an issue with your guild there. Not WoW. Your guild had no defined purpose. All guilds need a purpose or they will try to venture in all sorts of directions. And I'd say I don't equate gear and firsts along the same line. Gear is a joke in this game and is more of a player problem. Server firsts are a guild issue. Seems your guild had a bunch of wannabe hardcore raiders that instead of moving on to guilds that would've satisfied their needs stuck in yours and created that atmosphere. Firsts require teamwork. So I'd say that the teamwork most likely left your group first due to selfish players.
Again your guild leadership should have stated whether or not it expected you to raid. If not then you were fine and those raiders needed to move on. If you were then you would've been informed to find a different guild.
Your issue isn't raiding. It's a guild that couldn't simply state its direction which led to issues within. Sorry to hear it turned out that way.
And btw you never said anything about doing 40s. From what I can tell you have no idea about them. So what was the point of this whole rant? 40 raiding wasn't brain smashing. Blizzard has corrected a lot of the issues that caused problems for 40 man raiding.
Feb 12th 2010 6:21PM And scotlee there are enough 5s. More 5s than raid instances. You're fine.
Feb 12th 2010 6:19PM And all this matters why? People are either do 10s or 25s. Most casuals rarely see 25s past the first boss or so of an instance. It already takes a monumental effort for a casual guild to raid. Quit worrying about seeing everything. If you wish to see everything then you must do everything possible to see it. You play in a casual friendly guild and have to deal with that choice. Yes, it's a choice. You make choices in this game that hinder you. They are your own fault and to blame Blizzard or hardcores for not allowing you to see content is disgustingly childish.
And it was done once. Did you play Vanilla? I didn't think so. It's possible. It's all choice. If Blizzard gave the choices of 10s, 25s and 40s you'd see more 10s and 25s. Yes, it is hard to find 39 other people you get along with and can raid with. I simply stated it would be nice to have the option to do 40 mans. You have an air of entitlement that if it's there you must be able to do it. I say no.
Feb 12th 2010 4:18PM 25 man guilds can't support it Lissana? I completely disagree there. I'm currently in a guild that has 39-45 online for raids at times. I think there is room for 40 man raids. What was different in 40s in Vanilla is you could carry quite a few people. Now with refinement and Blizzard knowing more I doubt you could carry those people.
I'd love a 40 man option just for the fun of it. I've know at least 39 great players I'd love to raid with over my playing days. Those that hate will hate. It's hard getting together 25 or even 10 people now at times. It isn't about finding the 40 people. It's about finding 40 good players. Not everyone who plays this game is good at it. There are a lot of friendly and nice people who are horrible at their characters.
Nov 23rd 2009 7:31PM Simply amazing!
Sep 16th 2009 4:51PM Could definitely use an upgrade to my current couple year old headphones!
Aug 12th 2009 7:02PM Disagree. 20% of the dps? That's only if you are that good! The other dps could be carrying you through 10 mans. It's the same in 25s. Both 25s and 10s have fights that are harder compared to the other. And I agree with the last statement made by the author. Most people either don't want to put in the time or do not have the time to organize 25 man raid groups. 25s take more time and effort. And if you think 25 man organization is hard try going back to Vanilla WoW's 40 man raids. 10 mans causes more headaches to me than a 25 ever will. Normally with a 25 man raiding guild they have a roster of at least 35 raiders. This leaves more room for people that need a night off etc. If you feel like because you miss one night you are completely letting down your guild then I think you need to take a step back and ask why you are raiding. Any reasonable, responsible guild should understand that real life is more important than anything going on in WoW. I always just post to inform my officers "hey I've gotta work tonight." "going out with the family" etc.
And to the posters crying people play too much when they play five or more nights. Many of those guilds start out hardcore with 4-5 nights a week fomo 7-3am and then once content is on farm a few weeks later they are at 3 nights a week at the most. Smashing through the content has its advantages and disadvantages. If I had the kind of time those raiders had I would definitely have looked into a much more hardcore raiding guild when Wrath was released. Progression is exciting and it adds to the competition found in WoW.