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BlizzCon 2009: Laguna Art Museum VIP dinner (Attn: Lore nerds) {WoW}

Aug 28th 2009 2:40PM Do you know that for a fact? I thought most, if not all, Blizzard employees obscure their identity when playing to prevent issues.

She doesn't strike me as a very hard core player. She mentioned helping people start guilds and then quietly leaving them after a bit so she probably isn't seeing a lot of progression content.

Having said that, RP can be a fulfilling playstyle in its own right and WoW is a good enough setting to give you plenty of things to do it. I haven't done it much but it has been on my lists of things to check out since launch.

BlizzCon 2009: Laguna Art Museum VIP dinner (Attn: Lore nerds) {WoW}

Aug 28th 2009 11:36AM You bring up a good point about Sargeras being seen when Medivh was killed. Evelyn described the initial entry into Aegwynn as placing a part of himself in her. This is an area where Blizzard really has the ultimate freedom to do anything they want. It is fantasy and they only get into problems if they contradict themselves but not in how they explain things because ultimately it comes down to 'Oh, it's magic.'

Regarding the corrupted champion theme getting boring, I disagree. There is always going to be that next villian. How varied can you get into why they are villians? Ultimately, at some point, any true villian has gone off his/her rocker and is now doing bad things. There are cases where it is just a contest of survival between two opposed forces but that is the Horde vs. Alliance in the WoW universe.

The WoW villians are very not one-dimensional so you can't even say Blizzard is making it easy by just pointing to Old God taint.

The real thing that will make new encounters interesting are the encounters themselves and how it affects the game on a larger scale. Cataclysm looks to be one of the most revolutionary changes in the present story line ever in the WoW universe. I don't think it compares to the Sundering but that has always been ancient history.

However, oh crap, how droll... it is just another corrupted champion, Neltharion, the Earth-Warder (a.k.a. Deathwing) and this other one, Queen Azshara. *sigh* Blizzard why do you treat us so? We just got done beating Arthas, Illidan and Kaelthas... don't forget Vashj. Heck, just throw all the Eredar in there, too. /sarcasm

I personally am predicting the next corrupted champion will be Malfurion Stormrage.

BlizzCon 2009: Laguna Art Museum VIP dinner (Attn: Lore nerds) {WoW}

Aug 28th 2009 9:29AM Sargeras met his goal by possessing Medivh? I am just guessing but I think his goal was the complete subjugation/destruction of Azeroth. Granted, Medivh did a number by opening the portal on Azeroth but the champions of Azeroth have done a good job of not seeing all goodness driven off or corrupted, like it had been on Draenor. I think it is possible he might want to stick around for another shot or two.

You mentioned Khadgar seeing Sargeras before killing Medivh. I believe my statement was that no one has seen him since Medivh's death. I am really just relaying something that was conveyed by a Blizzard employee with a huge DOT DOT DOT at the end of it. I apologize if that doesn't fit into your concept of how WoW lore works.

The corrupted champion/hero is a reoccuring theme of WoW. Chris Metzen stated as much at the first Blizzcon. The source of evil in the lore is corruption from without, not something internal. Is this a basic truth? Well, leave that to the philosophers but WoW lore doesn't necessarily need to follow basic truths, does it? Even most of the races on Azeroth are the result of corruptions of the plans of the Titan. Just listen to the speech in your faction's city when someone kills Algalon or heck, go back and redo Uldaman.

BlizzCon 2009: Laguna Art Museum VIP dinner (Attn: Lore nerds) {WoW}

Aug 28th 2009 3:55AM >> Seeing all this evil for so long just... broke him, his mind and he turned 180°.

Doesn't that sound a lot like the influence of the old gods?

BlizzCon 2009: Laguna Art Museum VIP dinner (Attn: Lore nerds) {WoW}

Aug 28th 2009 3:53AM Accidentally changed names on you. The above post is mine.

BlizzCon 2009: Laguna Art Museum VIP dinner (Attn: Lore nerds) {WoW}

Aug 28th 2009 3:21AM I didn't really know what I was to prepare for. This dinner way exceeded any expectations that I had. I had no idea I was going to have personal conversations with anyone important.

Having said that, you say you doubt the Old Gods have any influence outside of Azeroth. I very much agree with this statement. However, if you look at Lovecraft lore, C'Thulu, Yogg' Saron, etc. are fairly low level beings in this whole mythos. They are so defined in their sphere of power that they merely deal with a single planet.

There are multiple heirarchies above them and in true Lovecraft mythos, these are the elder beings... their very nature being so inhumanly understandable that any sort of contact can drive you insane. Hmm... sounds like a Yogg'Saroth mechanic, doesn't it.

I was asking very specifically along these lines. We all know the Old Gods were imprisoned by the Titans. However, these are relatively lowly servants of a higher master. This where Chris Metzen's Naaru response came in... not regarding Sargeras.

However, even then... what drove Sargeras mad? He was out fighting the Burning Legion thoughout the cosmos, not digging around in the underdepths of Azeroth.

BlizzCon 2009: Laguna Art Museum VIP dinner (Attn: Lore nerds) {WoW}

Aug 27th 2009 6:09PM "and Sargeras? "

Focusing on Deathwing's corruption really skews what my question actually was. Specifically, I had asked if beings like the Old Gods were working on a cosmic scale and behind Sargeras's corruption, the Burning Legion and other notable examples of corruption, such as Deathwing and Arthas. Thorim and the other watchers in Ulduar are the most concrete example of Old God influence currently in game.

War of the Ancients speaks of a voice whispering to Deathwing, I believe, with no clarification as to what that voice is. Azshara heard a similar whispering during the Sundering. Knowing WoW lore, there are relatively few choices as to what was whispering.

Once again, though, my question was focused more on the scope of the Old Gods influence beyond Azeroth, rather than just Deathwing.