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Breakfast Topic: Real ID or Real bad IDea? {WoW}

Jul 7th 2010 10:06AM This has already been stated as the wrong approach: it applies to where the service is offered, not hosted. See for instance their RaF restrictions due to local laws, not the laws where they are hosted.

FYI: the European servers are hosted in France, Sweden and Germany:

Breakfast Topic: Real ID or Real bad IDea? {WoW}

Jul 7th 2010 9:44AM @jrb
EULA - does not have anything to do with the Privacy Policy.

The EULA and CoC you agree upon are irrelevant to this case.

The Online Privacy Policy is the only document that applies regarding this, more specificaly the following 3 sections regarding the usage of private data:

Processing my data is, again, not my concern. Sharing it is.

The part "With whom may we share your information" holds the following line:
"[...]if, in all good faith, we judge it is legally justified"
This could well be the escape Activision-Blizzard is looking for. However, they can feel it is legally justified, I can disagree and under Dutch law petition for the blocking of my personal data - which is all I am aiming for. Nothing else. They can do what they want with RealID - as long as my name remains private and undisclosed I am happy.

I have by now send a letter - as said by Vaneras and the GM who repsonded to my email to them - to their office requesting that my personal data will be blocked for this under based under Dutch law. Under the same law, they have 4 weeks to respond so yeah...

Again - this has nothing to do with a perhaps perceived crusade against RealID or whatnot, nothing against WoW, Activision-Blizzard or whatever you can think of. I love the game and the facilitarors and creators for making it possible for me to play it.

It *does* have to do with _me_ deciding what I reveal on the internet about me, not a company.



Breakfast Topic: Real ID or Real bad IDea? {WoW}

Jul 7th 2010 8:38AM @crschmid
It is not only the law regarding collecting but also storing and using personal data. Any data provided by me for the sole purpose of making a binding agreement (read: create an account) is considered personal and private. Blizzard may collect and use this data for their own purposes, currently amongst other things for instance internal evaluation for demographics. I consented to that and have absolutely no issue with that.
Sharing private data without my consent is something I do have an issue with.

Breakfast Topic: Real ID or Real bad IDea? {WoW}

Jul 7th 2010 8:28AM @CaryEverett

"My immediate thoughts upon reading that is that she is quoting Dutch laws, and Blizzard is an American company, and thus not subject to Dutch laws. However, there could be equivalent laws in America."
First off - let's confirm the MMORPG stigma - the char is a she, I'm a he :)

You are overlooking the fact that this has nothing to do whatsoever with American laws. Privacy Policies are always - always - bound to the local laws. The same reason applies as to why Blizzard Europe has contests in which not everyone is eligible to participate, due to local legal restrictions. Furthermore, the privacy policy itself - as I linked and quoted - states that they respect all applicable laws
"This Privacy Policy respects all applicable laws on data protection."
in this case Dutch Law.
I have nothing to do with American Law, being Dutch, resident in the Netherlands where Blizzard (a US based company) provides services.

As an analogy: It would be kinda weird if you had to pay Dutch or English tax-tariffs on petrol when you tank at a shell gasstation simply because it is a Netherlands and UK based company.

"Such an oversight is rather sad coming from a person who claims to be a "Dutch Law Student."
I am not a Dutch Law Student, not claim to be one, anywhere in my posts. As a matter of fact, I am far from one. I 've been working as a freelance ICT-specialist for several years now. Yes, I conferred with a lawyer about the issue at hand, a collegue of my girlfriend. He pointed several issues to me, which I relayd in my post.



WoW 5th Anniversary Giveaway: Spectral Kitten loot code {WoW}

Nov 23rd 2009 11:34AM *Crosses fingers*

nice Kitty!