Apr 10th 2010 9:14AM My main is a shaman -- elemental, in fact -- and I say give mages Heroism. Give it to locks, to warriors, hell, give it to everyone who wants it if that means leveling the playing field when it comes to DPS.
If a shaman is in the raid solely b/c of Heroism, the class itself is broken anyway. So yeah, spread the love and fix shaman. Everyone wins.
Apr 7th 2010 8:25PM The changes to ToW almost made me weep a little. It's a change we've been asking for for a year+ -- the ability to buff the raid and live up to our potential DPS.
That and EARTHQUAAAAAAKKKEEE!!!! make me one happy damn shaman.
Cata can't come too soon for me.
All of the shaman changes said one thing to me: That Blizz HAS been listening to our feedback and wants shaman to be awesome.
Apr 7th 2010 2:11PM If they keep true to this, then elemental will be getting everything we've been asking for in terms of fixing our spec and quality of life changes.
The "totem of wrath effect from all fire totems" is something Strawberry on the official forums has been advocating for months and months.
Looks like Blizz is listening. Bravo!
Mar 26th 2010 4:25PM If the DPS is low, I don't mind b/c my DPS will make up for it. As long as the person is trying (not auto-attacking or standing there doing nothing) I don't mind carrying people. If the healer is undergeared, no worries b/c I play a hybrid and I can throw out some heals too. If the tank is undergeared, not a big deal, I can rein in my DPS so I don't pull aggro.
HOWEVER... at least once a day for the past two weeks I've had tanks "ninja-afk" at the beginning of an instance. "Sry gtg" and then they stand there till they AFK. And here's the kicker -- in almost every case you can tell they're not AFK b/c you can see them targeting various party members or mobs. Probably sitting there laughing their asses off at our indignation.
So either way the other 4 ppl get their valuable time wasted b/c someone is getting their jollies by being a jerk No matter how you look at it, we're out another 15-20 minutes -- either in waiting out our own debuff if we drop group, or waiting to kick the tank and then waiting to find ANOTHER tank to finish the instance.
It's griefing, plain and simple. Is it reportable? I have no idea but a 5-minute wait on vote-to-kick would solve most problems like that.
Mar 22nd 2010 8:18PM Anecdotal evidence here: in my guild, the PURES respec far more often than hybrids do to fulfill certain roles. Whether it's a hunter respeccing to tank for Blood Princes or a Mage respeccing to better handle blood beasts on Saurfang -- the pures in my guild respec to an surprising degree in my guild. Tanks will respec to different tanking specs (yes all tanks are hybrids, I know). Healers will respec to certain other healing specs for certain fights.
As a hybrid DPS I've never once been asked to respec to heals. Not once. I have been asked to change glyphs for certain fights (I normally glyph for Thunderstorm to take out the knockback in raids.)
If hybrids did as much DPS as pures, I don't think you'd see a sudden shortage of pures at all. Some people play a class simply b/c they love the class. Mages want to be mages. Hunters love being hunters. Etc.
If my ROLE is DPS, I should be able to do that role as well as anyone else, regardless of my class -- with gear and skill being roughly equal.
Mar 22nd 2010 4:14PM Those PUGs made it possible for your guild to down bosses and see loot drop. Without those PUGs, the raid would not have been possible for you, leading to no loot for anyone. They have as much right to a shot at loot as your guild.
Don't want PUGS getting loot? DON'T INVITE PUGS. Expand your ranks so you don't have to PUG out slots.
But trust me on this -- if you do invite PUGS and treat them poorly, word will spread and it'll be even harder to recruit people to fill your raids.
Treat your PUGs well and you may even see them join your guild, or send friends your way. My own guild is small but we've gotten a lot of members who were formerly PUGS who liked our guild's attitude and fairness.
Mar 22nd 2010 4:03PM I think the replies here show how little many ppl know about elemental shaman, actually.
A well-geared, skilled shaman can do viable DPS in these conditions:
- The shaman does not have to drop Totem of Wrath
- The fight is convenient to Fire DPS totems
- There is a Demo Lock in the raid
Take away ANY of those things and the elemental shaman will usually be dead last on the DPS charts. Our potential right now is dependent on our not using our 51-point talent and is dependent on having another specific spec (demo lock) in the raid.
These issues are not subjective or opinions -- they are simple mathematical facts. If you see logs of ele shaman doing quite well, take a moment to see if they have a Demo Lock in the raid and if they are dropping Fire DPS totems.
The only unique buff elemental brings is Totem of Wrath (all other specs of shaman bring every single other buff we bring). And that Totem drops our DPS by as much as 10-20%. It's also a buff that is vastly inferior to Demonic Pact (which can be twice as powerful), and Demo Locks lose ZERO DPS by providing it.
So right now ele shaman are hit by 2 taxes: the so-called hybrid tax, as well as the buff bot tax which GC has said doesn't exist. (Though if it doesn't exist the question remains why can a Demo Lock buff the raid with no loss of DPS while a shaman loses a major chunk of DPS to provide an inferior buff?)
Mar 20th 2010 11:59PM @Noah, I quite agree with you. From what the devs said at last year's BlizzCon, they want to make totems more interactive and more "fun." A totem that you drop and forget to get a passive buff is boring. Dropping Fire Elemental, for example, is much more fun than Wrath of Air. It's a totem that has a life of its own. (Sometimes it chooses to just stand there and look bored instead of actually fighting but... oh well... can't have it all!)
From what I've read of GC lately, he wants players to make interesting choices. For me, the decision of which DPS totem to use is far more fun than which passive stick-in-the-mud I'll drop. Hm, Searing? Magma? Is it time for Fire Elemental? -- Those are fun and interesting choices. I'd LOVE to see, for example, DPS totems in other elements than fire. Make them mutually exclusive so that they're not OP. But an Earth totem that shakes the ground where it's dropped, stunning enemies in a certain range... or an Air totem that inflicts a nature-damage-based AOE like "static shock" -- those would be pretty damned FUN.
Mar 20th 2010 8:33PM Bravo! I think you've stated elemental's issues and problems perfectly. And I've long been a fan of the "Turn ToW into a sort of Searing Totem." Doing so would help the spec in many ways:
- We could buff the raid without losing 10-20% of our personal DPS (and yes it really IS that much of a DPS loss to drop ToW, depending on the fight)
- It would help keep us at the range where we belong -- with the casters, instead of in melee dropping Magma which is where we are now if we want to maximize our DPS
- It would help us on movement-heavy fights as our totem would keep popping away at the boss while we're on the run
- it wouldn't be OP in PVP as it would still be a totem with 5 hp, easily killed
I'd also add that the new ToW should attack the target the shaman is targeting. No need for a pet bar, but it would keep the totem from shooting something it shouldn't be, breaking CC etc.
Elemental has been gimped for most of the expansion and it's been sort of heartbreaking to see the devs basically ignore our real issues (scaling, ToW) and throw us band aid after band aid. I hope Cata is the expansion where the class and elemental spec is taken apart and practically rebuilt from the ground up.
My shaman is my main and elemental is my favorite spec. I feel like there is so much potential for FUN with this spec, that hasn't been fully realized yet. Here's to hoping that with Cata, we'll be valuable caster in raids not for our buffs but for our ROLE, which is DPS, provide buffs that are as good as anyone else's without paying more than those other classes do, and be even more fun, with more fun and interesting choices to make rather than being stuck to a rigid rotation.
Mar 19th 2010 7:16PM Robin, I agree -- there is help. But so many people do not partake of it. Why? :-( I do think it's partly b/c of the stigma of mental illness we have in modern society. And also the nature of mental illness it self. I can't tell you how many times people have said "Just cheer up" or "get over yourself" to me when I was suffering from extreme long-term depression. Hence the stigma, and the misunderstanding of mental illness from people who think it's not a real condition or if it is, anyone can just decide to "get over it." I think that this is the prevailing attitude, honestly, unless you've actually suffered from something similar.
It's hard to even fathom that there is a light at the end of the tunnel when you're in the depths of despair. They may not even be aware that the problem is something that CAN be helped. That is when the support of friends and loved ones come into play, I think.
I can only speak for myself but when I fall into a depressive period, I tend to isolate myself from friends and my support group. If someone does this and also feels they don't even have that sort of support in their lives, it can lead to tragedy, as we all have seen.
In any case, I'm glad you wrote this article as it's a situation that deserves to be discussed and brought out into the light. Bravo to you for that!