Jul 17th 2007 10:46AM @22 & 26
I understand that there were AFKers in AB escpecially in 1.0, but this was mostly due to the fact that they were intersted in the rep rewards and not honor. Since they were awarded a mark regardless of whether or not they won or lost, eventually they would get the rewards. The only time I really see people AFK in AB or WSG is when it's obvious that they're going to lose.
If you think about it, the real reason that AFKing is so prevelant in AV is because regardless of your teams' performance they are almost guaranteed to at least kill the leutenants, the commander, and at least cap a couple of towers. That's at least 250 honor every match win or lose. If people AFK in AB or WSG, the impact they have on the performance of their team is much more drastic, and AFKing becomes much less profitable for them.
A lot of the people who are AFKing in AV aren't bots, they just people sitting in front of their computers not playing because they have not motivation. Would taht solution totally wipe out AFKers? No. Would we have significantly less AFKers (% wise) than in AV? I personally think so.
Jul 17th 2007 9:58AM In response to the vote/kick system, imagine the propensity for griefing. I'm not trying to be a dick I'm just saying, a system like that screams abuse.
Jul 17th 2007 9:56AM @8
While I like your idea of awarding more honor for kills and removing diminishing returns there is one problem with that solution. Both sides farming each other indefinitely, with the objectives left alone.
Jul 17th 2007 9:48AM More on topic, the problem with most of the solutions mentioned is that for the most part, any measures they try to take to prevent people from AFKing will most likely be ineffectual or even worse penalize players who are actually making an effort.
For instance, let's take the idea of having to do a certain amount of damage or healing. Most matches, I guard towers while they cap. I play a very important role in my team's victory but lots of matches I don't see much action. I could end up not getting any honor even though I was filling one of the least desired but also critical roles in the BG.
At the same time, if something like this was put in place, eventually AFKers from boths sides would find an area where they could just meet up and do damange/healing to each other while not participating in the BG's objectives. The main problem is that most of the people who are AFKing are doing so because of the inordinate amount of honor that AV awards, coupled with the fact that most of the have played thousands of AV matches since the BG was released, getting exalted in 1.0 and then grinding again after the honor system change.
Bottom line is that the other BGs need to be made more attractive, which will lure people away from AV and into a BG where individual effort counts for more.
Jul 17th 2007 9:35AM I wonder if this will be the post the finally get AV honor nerfed. Look, I understand how broken the current system is, but for people like me with a limited amount of time to play AV is really the only way for me to gear up fast enough to keep up.
Personally, I think that the other BGs should award more honor. A 20 minute AV loss still nets me much more honor than a 30 minute AB win. Just as a comparison, I needed 40 AB marks for my PVP belt, which means that I had to PUG about 20 AB games. After playing about 8 matches I had netted around 1100 honor. If I had devoted the same amount of time to AV I would have come out with around 3k. Yes AV sucks, and yes it's PVE that awards honor, but I have a feeling that instead of increasing the honor that you get from the other BGs, Blizzard will just nerf AV honor like they did in 2005.
Personally, I love the other BGs and would love an excuse to play them, but right now AV is just too sweet to ignore.
Jul 2nd 2007 4:00PM The reason that something like full loot in UO worked is because even though it sucked at times to lose your stuff, gear was for the most part inconsequential. The best magic items (vanq, suprm acc) in the game only gave you a moderate damage boost. Usually the most you lost were some regs and pots. No big deal. You res, go stock up, grab a hally and get back out there.
UO was the greatest game ever made.
Jun 29th 2007 10:14AM 2004 called, they want their addons back. I kid! Cosmos was a godsend to me when I first started playing WoW. I used it primarily for the extra action bars.
Jun 26th 2007 1:41PM For some reason, racist words bother me, but gay, fag, rape, homo, assrape, and cursing don't. I wonder why?
Jun 19th 2007 10:07AM Check out this thread for some insight into the issue.