Mar 30th 2012 8:13PM This entire screen shot is awesome. But, I can't deny that even above the awesome onyx serpent, the great female Pandaren, and the lovely landscape, I am enamored with the adorableness that is Mr. Chilly. Man, that penguin is too cute for words. :3
Mar 29th 2012 4:35PM Thanks so much, RogueJedi86. I really appreciate that. And, I completely agree with what you said about taking it back a bit on the scale. Sometimes it really feels like all or nothing and that's just not logical. A happy medium would be fantastic.
"The other sad thing? It looks like Blizz thinks marking passes for faces now. They did it with female worgen, and now both genders of pandaren. It wouldn't be so bad if the "faces" option changed the eyes or nose, but it doesn't. Bleh!"
Totally agree with that sentiment as well, Snuzzle. You guys both hit the nail on the head, I think.
Mar 29th 2012 4:26PM I know just what you're saying about goblin girls, lol; I have the same problem! They have so much awesome variety, that I really do have to stop myself from making more. I keep getting tempted to try classes I've never even been all that fond off, just so I can make another goblin female. x3
I also know what you mean about being hopeful after the whole debacle with the female worgen. It definitely does seem odd that they'd make that same mistake twice. And, like you said, they've put so much work and effort into the Pandaren. To make them so nice and then leave out options for actual features seems unfathomable.
I'm really glad that you pointed out the connection between embellishments like jewelry and certain facial features on the goblins. That's very true! I hope that'll at least be what happens with the Pandaren, in the end, if not a full tab for features in general. That would be really wonderful.
Mar 29th 2012 1:34PM I really really hope you're right, Rose. See, I was thinking that at first. But, seeing hair color on the one tab for the male's made me think otherwise. But, I hope so much that I'm wrong.
And, the thing is, I really really love the customization we have so far. I love the fur colors, the markings, and the hair. I think all three look absolutely phenomenal. I don't want to change the female's face, so we're stuck with one and only one. I just hope we'll get the same option as most other races to change facial features, too. So that we can have different expressions, with different shaped muzzles and eyes. I like expressive characters and customization that allows me to make my toon feel unique to me. It has a huge impact on how much fun I have with my character, when I play.
Someone said to me yesterday, "I like characters with character." And, I completely agree with that sentiment.
Mar 29th 2012 1:26PM I totally agree, Shinae. I don't think it's a bad thing for the male and female models to look somewhat similar. In fact, they should look similar. All you have to do to make one more feminine than the other is to soften the hard edges a bit and make tiny adjustments. And, body-wise, I think the boobs pretty much do that trick. It's not exactly difficult to tell the difference between the male and female Pandaren, based on body alone. Or, most other races.
I personally really dislike the nose and mouth area of the female Pandaren that we have so far. I don't want it to change, I would just like the -option- to change it, though. I'd like to have actual customization of the face, the way we do goblins, gnomes, humans, orcs, etc. I want to be able to change her expression, the shape of her muzzle, her eyes, and all that. It's not a new thing, it's what we have with most other races, so it seems like something to expect. But, we didn't get that with the Worgen and I fear we won't with the Pandaren either, although I really really hope we do.
An old friend of mine is staying at my house and she plays wow, too. She brought up how the male muzzle looks so much more panda-like than the female's. And, how with the female face being so different than the male's already, why couldn't we just have an option to change her muzzle? Or, several options. Something like this:
That's just the male's muzzle copy and pasted onto the female's face. Nothing else has been done or tweaked. It's slightly blended to make the colors match and that's all. You can easily see the difference between the two. Now, I'm not saying we should change the female's current face. I know some people like it and I'm totally cool with that. But, could we have options such as this? Most other classes do, you know?
I definitely still feel like even with that second muzzle, she looks feminine and you can tell she's the female. I'd just really really like to hear from the designers and artists and get their thoughts on this sort of thing. It would be awesome to have an open discussion.
Mar 29th 2012 1:11PM I'm so happy that the guys are getting red pandas, too. It felt unfair to think that only the female might get such a cool option.
I am a little worried now, though, looking at all the customization tabs for the male. I have this knot in the pit of my stomach, telling me that the last two empty tabs for females are going to be for -hair color- and -embellishments- (like scars and jewelry).
I really really hope I'm wrong, b/c I desperately want to have actual facial feature choices to choose from; I want to change my female Pandaren's face around, so that her muzzle is different and or her expression.
If I am right, though, and they don't offer facial changes, other than markings and fur colors, then I just have to wonder why on earth the teams would do that again. The whole worgen debacle happened b/c they only offered one base face for both male and females. The males looked pretty great, so not too many complained. But, the female's face was a lot less accepted by most and not having a choice to change it really really upset a lot of folks.
Why would they limit facial feature options and expressions? They have so much time to work on something like this. Most other races have the choice to change their facial expressions and features. But, not the Worgen and possibly not the Pandaren, either. It just doesn't make sense to me, honestly. I think it's disappointing, if we end up lacking that kind of customization for a model that otherwise looks fantastic.
Mar 19th 2012 2:01PM I completely agree. I thought the exact same thing; I immediately saw the chipettes, from the new movies. It's the cheeks and the silly smile. The thing is, I'm not even usually a complainer about these things.
I'm so grateful for what we've seen so far; the body is wonderful. She could have been even larger and more rubenesque and I would have been perfectly content. I'm just disappointed in the face. I know that there are supposedly going to be more options this time around, but will they change the shape of the eyes, allow me to have a furrowed brow, or tighter cheeks, like the males? I just want an option of having the male's face, but slightly adjusted so that it's just ever so slightly softer and more feminine. Can that be a single option?
Again, I feel so badly, b/c I rarely complain about this sort of stuff. But, I'm just super down about the eyes, cheeks, lack of furrow, and smile. I think the males look tough and cute at the same time. Can we have a face that works the same for the girls?
Dec 17th 2011 12:40AM So not on topic, but oh my god, your icon is adorable. O_O
Nov 23rd 2011 3:59AM Another note: I thought that malefic grasp was our new afflic filler, instead of shadow bolt? Still feels like if Haunt is removed, that we're missing that and there's nothing to fill that void. I wonder.
Nov 23rd 2011 3:56AM Hmm, I see. I definitely like Malefic Grasp, but I adore the Haunt spell. I enjoy the return effect it has on my health and the damage it initially does. I don't know. I never thought of Malefic Grasp as the new Haunt. Is that how they described it at Blizzcon, though?
Thanks much for your input and help. ^_^