Oct 4th 2011 7:54PM But... couldn't you make the same point about the Live Realms? At the very least, you're not going to play FOREVER, and in all likelihood not till the end of your life, so are not WoW characters also, relatively speaking, flashes in the pan?
I mean, obviously people get their jollies off amassing large amounts of wealth. But since the WoW economy isn't really like the real world economy (functionally no scarcity except of time), couldn't you make the same claims of the PTR economy? Sure, being good at the PTR moneymaking game doesn't mean you're good at the live moneymaking game, but it bears about as much resemblance as live moneymaking does to real-world moneymaking.
You can make the argument that Live moneymaking is about playing a game and playing it well, but surely PTR moneymaking is a distinct game with it's own distinct rules and turn limit?
Dec 25th 2010 1:21PM I see the comments are higher on this one.
Dec 24th 2010 11:45AM Insert witticism here.
Dec 23rd 2010 1:53PM This is still awesome!
Dec 22nd 2010 1:50PM This is an awesome giveaway to begin with.
May 17th 2010 6:10PM Of course they're relying on people buying with ignorance. Consider... well, anything that's common but out of the way. vanity pets are a good example. Sure, some will mark up for convenience. Others though, will indeed markup because they know it's not common knowledge that they buy those pets for 50s rather than the 20g they're listed for on the AH.
Yeah, some of those buyers are purely buying the pets for the convenience. But others are paying that markup because they don't know that that the trip would be considered less costly by themselves than the price.
I'm not saying I'm excusing the seller (hence why I don't buy from them, and hence why I'm entirely in favour of adding a sort by price per item option natively). I just don't see what it is about sellers being bad people that excuses buyers of ALL responsibility for their actions.
On top of that, they're not doing anything against the ToS, which is pretty much the only set of rules that apply to the gameworld.
May 17th 2010 5:40PM Sheesh. Never did I think I'd be agreeing with the goons that babble on about that sociopathic perversion we call the free market. :P
First off - free market is a nonsense term if we pretend it's absolute freedom. There are always influences, and the only thing we mean when we say X is free and Y is not, is that we accept the influences on X as legitimate but reject the ones on Y.
Second - fairness and niceness are not the same. The majority position academically (and the lay understanding) both seem to favour the idea that justice and compassion are different things. Often they work against each other. I'm pretty damn nice to the people who ask me for some silvers to pay for their skill (or are lying about it, but I just don't care), but it's not actually fair to everyone else who needs it that they don't get it - after all, it's not like they CHOOSE to be too meek to ask strangers. Now, you could argue that a system that was setup to be initially fair and then enforced would result in a way that meant niceness and fairness were equivalent, but the system of WoW (and, sadly, RL) hasn't be designed that way.
Those are asides though. The issue with the AH here is that it acts in that sort of blind way that assumes that everyone who uses it has the same capabilities. It's clearly not true. Some of us have interfaces that don't show the difference between 100 and 1000. Some of us are tired, some are late for the raid and just need the ammo and the fish, some of us just don't bother at all, some of us don't care because we're gold-capped. But those fundamental differences won't change because we plaster over those symptoms of inequality amongst the playerbase by bluntly handing out bans. Far better is the suggestion to change the capabilities of the playerbase by building addon functionality into the main UI.
I'm not saying that the people who try this specific tactic are nice, or people I like, and they're certainly not people I'm going to buy from. But they're not actually scamming. They're not exploiting loopholes in coding, or causing false information to appear on buyer's screens. They're preying on certain demographics (the small of screen, the stressed, the sleepy new parent, and so on) - but the point of markets is for sellers to find prey who are vulnerable to their attacks. I don't actually much care for it, but it's a bit hypocritical of me to say that and still live my life as a part of contemporary society.
You might make a case that they're spamming pages in the AH, but again a far more effective solution would just be to sort by price per item on the AH screen.
Apr 9th 2010 3:17AM Oh my. I used to be an Archmage Pants sort of guy, but I think I've just become a Dawn Moore fan. I think mostly it was just that one line about beef with the term Chakra. You give 'em hell on Sunday, Dawn. I'll be hiding right behind your skirts in my... mage skirts?