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12 Days of Winter Veil Giveaway: 60-day prepaid game cards from WootLoots.com {WoW}

Dec 26th 2011 1:29AM Oh, make that North America, rather.

12 Days of Winter Veil Giveaway: FigurePrint Statue {WoW}

Dec 22nd 2011 1:07AM Good luck, all! :)

Officers' Quarters: Return of an X guild leader {WoW}

Nov 14th 2011 11:38AM Yep, go through with the name change, change the identity of his guild, and then, guess what? His old guild name will be available again. Let *him* start over if he wants to be guild leader so bad. He's underhanded, deceitful, and disrespectful. Tell him you plan on going through with your plans, offer to let him stay - *not* as an officer - but give him the option that if he wants to have "his guild" back, the name will be available for him to use.

Beginner Roleplay: Choosing sides {WoW}

Nov 14th 2011 11:27AM There's definitely quite a lot I can agree with in your post - and I only play Tauren, so maybe that's part of where my "It's all groovy, baby" attitude is coming from.

If it hasn't come across that I have a lot of respect for the Alliance, I'm sorry about that. I really, genuinely like both factions, and I won't condone evil actions that the Horde has committed any more than I'll condone any evil action that the Alliance has committed. I will say that it's a terrible shame that the Alliance hasn't had any great victories in a while - Blizzard hasn't done a very good job of making the Alliance as compelling as the Horde. Trust me when I say that I hope that the Alliance gets there comeuppance and delivers a potent blow to the Horde (as long as it's not in Mulgore). I'd genuinely love nothing more than for Varian to take out Garrosh - and I think you'd find a lot of Hordies cheering for your faction leader, too.

Man, we hate that guy.

And I never said that the Alliance was doomed - I didn't mean to diminish the value of fealty and tradition, and I hope there's a turnaround. Frankly, it's simply good storytelling.

In any case, it's obvious you're passionate about the Alliance, and I can respect that. And I'd certainly be willing to admit that while the *faction* is Chaotic (and I still stand by the fact that the Alliance and Horde are still fighting a war of Law vs. Chaos), our current faction leader could very well be "Chaotic Evil". But I don't think you could have said the same about Thrall's Horde, and I still think it's unfair to judge the entire faction based on the actions of the faction leader - yours included. Blizzard does it to raise tensions and passions - again, it's good storytelling. But I stand by my statement that when you make a character in the Horde - as when you make a character in the Alliance - you choose whether that character is cast in the role of Hero or Villain. And I play heroes, just as you do.

And lastly, I do owe you a bit of an apology - I was teasing you a bit in my last message; it was meant as playful banter, but maybe it didn't come across that way. In any case, it doesn't seem as though I'm going to be able to make you see things any differently, and that's okay. I still stand by my previous statements. But try to remember, if you are truly passionate about this, that atrocities have been committed on both sides, and both factions have "good reason" to hate the other and to be unwilling to forgive. It's unfortunate, but then again, if it wasn't there, we wouldn't have the game that we enjoy playing so much.

Cheers,
- Gulthor

Beginner Roleplay: Choosing sides {WoW}

Nov 14th 2011 1:46AM Thanks :) I'm glad someone likes it.

And Hobstadt, no, of course I'm not saying that a nation that attacks another nation "fun and priofit, and exterminate or exiles their enitre population, is just as good as a peaceful, non-aggressive nation". I was in fact deliberately avoiding the flame-war that has side-barred this well-written roleplay article. I was merely voicing that the Alliance and Horde both have similar goals, enemies, and challenges: they both oppose the Scourge, the Burning Legion, and the Twilight Cult, they both want what's best for their people, even if that means shedding blood in order to do it, they're both too hard-headed to realize how much they have in common with one another, and they're both led by warmongering fools that refuse to see reason.

Even so, that doesn't make either faction - in at least so far as the D&D alignment system goes - evil. One is Lawful, the other Chaotic. You can argue morality, the evils and atrocities of war, and Good vs. Evil all you like, and apply arguments to either side, but when it comes down to the fundamental philosophical reason that the Alliance and Horde can't see eye to eye, it's a matter of Law vs. Chaos. And frankly, I think arguing about the morality of war and applying it to WoW is taking things a bit too seriously. This is a fantasy game, and you're given two rich options to explore when you create your hero. I chose to play Horde, and my paladin embraced the Light, became a Crusader of the Argent Crusade, and defeated the Lich King by the side of his friends and companions. How does that make my hero evil when compared to an Alliance paladin who did the same? No, the difference is that my paladin values freedom and glory, and loves being in a society that relishes individuality over tradition and fealty, which does not diminish the value of being in the opposite.

They both have their virtues, and they both have their failings, to be sure. Each faction is a rich and interesting choice. And that's what this article is about. It's good to be proud of your faction, but it's not good to ridicule someone else for their opinion, or to accuse someone attempting to offer another explanation of the old Alliance vs. Horde debate of justifying genocide.

To accuse someone of that would be acting like fourteen Hitlers. j/k