Aug 8th 2011 9:22AM We run a 25 man raid group and a 10 man raid group in my guild currently. We have people in the guild who solo trash or do trash runs in their off time. As long as they don't kill any bosses I don't care and I don't even talk to them about it. I've never expected anything for the guild either. There are far more important things to be concerned about IMO.
I also don't care if they kill bosses that we don't down (if that ends up happening) after our raid week.
Aug 1st 2011 9:46AM From reading this I'm not sure if Hurt Healadin really even wants to raid. I run a raiding guild and as we've aged we have found that there are more and more retired raiders in our ranks. These are people who no longer have the time to raid but they still want to hang out with us. Even my husband is a "retired raider". With having only one day a week to raid I almost wonder if just doing the occasional guild 5 man, where new gear and experience would be obtained, would be more fun for this player.
With the one day a week thing I also wonder if there really is a problem with this. I don't know about this guild, for us we raid three days a week and someone who can just raid one doesn't help especially if the day is not one of our "naturally lighter" days. For example if we have 28 people online on Tuesday and 24 online on Thursday and the guy can only raid Tuesday that doesn't help matters and we'd rather bring someone who will be there all three days.
We also had to sit a long time raider and former officer who played a holy paladin because he wasn't keeping people alive. It sucked to cut him but we had to do it.
Jul 18th 2011 11:12AM The idea posted by some here to speak with Guild B about people from Guild A possibly joining is a very good one.
I've restarted a dead guild. It's tough. You might as well be forming a brand new guild because it's the same amount of work, and the amount of work in this is also insane. Splitting your time between resurrecting a dying guild and raiding with another is just too much work and will often lead to burnout. The advice in this article about picking one guild and sticking to it is spot on. The advice from others about talking to Guild B about bringing in the Guild A players is also spot on. The most important thing that any player in this situation should think about is what will make them the happiest, ultimately and truthfully.
We have a few raiders with our guild who also raid with a second guild (without mention of this when applying but it has slipped out). We also have several guild members who have alts in other guilds. Generally people tend to pick one guild after some time has passed.
Jul 1st 2011 11:18AM IMO people need to be recruited to fill those holes. That is the only solution. It's a good idea to discuss the issue with H and P but at the end of the day the important thing is the 8+ others who want to raid.
This is in addition to posting rules which I agree with 100% because it makes it less like a personal attack.
Since Firelands was released our attendance and application numbers have skyrocketed. I guarantee it is possible to find two people to raid even on a backwater server that could mesh with this group.
Casual doesn't mean to not think about others either. If you've got a vacation or whatever that is normal for summer but let the leaders know so they can find replacements. It's called being respectful of others time.
Jun 28th 2011 1:23PM In response to Grovinofdarkhour you will need 25 loving members if you're going to make this into a legendary in a 25 man raid. :)
Jun 28th 2011 8:08AM We're going to attempt to raid Firelands tonight. I have a feeling the servers will come up at about 5pm Pacific and then there will be terrible lag but hopefully we can at least see the new content. For those with servers on the east coast, if I were you I probably would just completely cancel raiding on patch Tuesday due to when the servers actually come up LOL.
Sadly I can't download the patch yet because the login servers are busy and I'm about to head into work *sigh*.
Jun 27th 2011 1:05PM Being a raiding guild where the goal is to clear content doesn't necessarily mean that the guild is going to fall apart either.
There are plenty of raiding guilds that have been together for years and manage to make it work. They range from casual - hardcore.
I personally prefer a guild that will stick over a guild that will have great raid progression and don't consider a "one content patch with great progression then we die" guild a success.
My guild is a casual to semi-hardcore (depending on how people would define it) raiding guild as well as being a PvP guild. We encourage friendships and have several groups of real life friends. We've got a pretty tight core. We do have summer raid attrition but do not have any issues with the "blah" periods of WoW, in fact we tend to attract more people at these times and maintain a very active playerbase.
Point being, I find that having regular and organized raid and pvp groups can bond people together.
Jun 26th 2011 11:19AM I'm a guild leader of a 25 man guild and also help with the raid leading. We've been talking in the officer areas about who should get his staff for months.
We've finally decided it's going to be our most loyal shadow priest first who shows up every week and has for over a year. After that we have a list. We're probably going to go based on the things mentioned in this post basically but we have to narrow it down so people know their position.
We made a mistake with Shadowmourne. It went to someone who ebayed their char the week after. This isn't happening again.
I think this staff is going to be easier to distribute in a lot of groups due to all the 10 mans. Sometimes 10 mans just have one caster dps, so it's a quick decision.
If you really want to get the staff and you don't have a group capable of it right now working to improve what you have is a good start. Another option which is a bit of a crapshoot is joining a start up guild and helping it succeed with the things described in the article. I wouldn't recommend making a guild for the sole purpose of getting this for yourself. If you only are in it for yourself that guild will not succeed and people will see right through your plan. On top of that running a guild can be like a second job a lot of the time and come with high stress in bad situations.
Jun 25th 2011 3:21PM I've been playing since 2004 and I did get an email. It's just a way to get another $15 a month from people but whatever. I have someone to give it to which is good.
Jun 24th 2011 8:04PM Although it's not being mentioned, there isn't a lot of harm with sticking with the current guild for a little longer. Summer attrition is extremely common. You might just find a 13/13H guild that looks healthy but is on the verge of falling apart. With that being said "Doubting and Shy" has probably thought about this quite a bit before contacting Drama Mamas and obviously everyone plays the game to have fun so if it's time to move on, it's time to move on.
From the post I read, I gathered that this person does not enjoy interrupting and would rather not have that responsibility. That is part of being a dps shaman though and you will be expected to do this ten fold in a really hardcore guild, and never fail. This is especially true in a 10 man setting.
My suggestion is if "Doubting and Shy" is feeling every night that she should be raiding and strongly wanting to see the content that she should look for a new guild. Don't hide being female either. Hardcore guilds will want you to talk in vent and you will be found out fast.