Dec 26th 2011 9:19AM Reesi. Queen of Druid tanks.
If you're interested in bear tanking that site is all you will ever need.
Dec 25th 2011 6:43PM North America!
Dec 24th 2011 4:12PM FOR THE HORDE!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 3rd 2011 7:01PM Shadowfax, you fail at improving the quality of the comments. There IS a lot of bad info here and you made the problem worse.
I think the source of the problem is that some people learn how to play the strength-based tanking classes and learn the simple truth: "PvP gear is useless in PvE tanking" which is true FOR THEM.
That is CERTAINLY not true for bears. Read any resectable bear strat site that speaks about pvp gear and you will learn this. You say it would only be better than an ilvl 333 item? I say you are very ignorant of bears.
Again, a pvp item of a higher ilvl will have:
the ONLY mitigation stat they will have less of on average is Mastery.
Pls don't try to apply what is a truth to other strength based tanks to bears.
There is NO "tanking" leather in this game. There is just dps leather and bears were designed to be able to use dps stats (like agility) and use it for tanking. This changes everything.
Again, PvE gear IS better if the same or close to the same ilvl. But if the difference in ilvl is large, then the higher ilvl piece is better.
Aug 3rd 2011 6:51PM Your thinking is wrong on this. As has been clearly stated, the most important stats for bears are:
Armor, Agility, Stamina, Dodge, and Mastery. Then way below those stats are the rest.
A pvp item of a higher item lvl will have:
Less Mastery (on average)
The other stats are much much less important. Also, I have to disagree with Allison on the importance of the other secondary stats for threat. No one cares about threat, and if they do and are playing a druid, then they are probably playing badly. In fact since the pvp gear has more agility (which gives WAY more threat than any secondary stat) it at least partially offsets the loss of some crit or haste (mastery doesn't give you any threat BTW).
Vengeance makes threat a non-issue except in the beginning of a pull, in which case you have berserk. And for AOE situations, our aoe threat has been buffed very high.
Bears have absolutely no problem with threat. I have done a lot of raid tanking in pvp gear and I have never once had a threat problem.
That being said, realize that by the end of the patch, all my pvp gear WILL be traded in for current tier raid gear. But that the beginning of each patch, feel free to replace a lot of your old raid gear with pvp gear until you get the good pve replacements.
It unambigously raises your mitigation. Why wait on that one stupid pieces drops after a month or so or raiding when you can increase your mitigation without hurting your agro right now?
I still think the Author is leaving out PvP gear simply because it makes the articles quicker and easier to write, which disappoints me.
I would love to find an article that takes each pvp pieces into account and compares it to the rest of the gear Allison listed so we can see which ones are better as temporary upgrades and which are worse based on the pvp itemization and the comparative pve itemization.
But that kind of article would require more effort than this one.
Jul 26th 2011 6:42PM Well, the pvp gear may or may not be better than stuff 6 ilvls below it, but it is certainly better than dungeon gear. Not including it is silly and is really the "easier path" rather then the path of "most usefulness" from the writer.
I would encourage Allison to take the time to include the pvp gear in her analysis. After all, it may take us months to get some of the gear listed here and meanwhile we could continue wearing our old gear which was long ago outpaced by the new pvp gear sitting in our bags (arena gear is fairly quick and easy to get).
Not including it in the list, makes this list incomplete and much less useful.
Jul 26th 2011 6:35PM Pls start including pvp gear in your list. It is better than much of the gear you listed. Even though a lot of itemization is wasted on resilience, it is higher ilvl than the equivalent pve gear it will still have:
More armor, more stamina, more agility, and more dodge (reforged on). It will have less of the other stats (the less important ones).
It is also very easy to get. So it would be so much more helpful to us if you would include it in your analysis.
That would make this article much much more valuable to me at least (and I bet there are many others like me who would agree).
Apr 7th 2011 7:18PM Thoroughly enjoyed the video. I haven't ever heard of Boogie before but I'm a fan now.
Feb 17th 2011 9:51PM Thanks for the review. I've been considering buying one for a long time. I guess I"m just waiting for a sweet sale to come along or something to help a bit with the price. Thx for the review. Hope more are coming.
Feb 1st 2011 6:52PM "1 hour of arena, once a week for 3 weeks"
is what I meant to say.
Seriously 3 hours of playtime = sweetest weapon ever.