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Mists of Pandaria: Pet Battles {WoW}

Mar 23rd 2012 1:36PM Not being there at launch is the same as it being cut from launch. I don't know why you would split hairs that way. Sure they say it will come in later, and maybe it will. But the point is its not there for launch, and that will devalue other D3 systems. People will pay real money for items if they can use it to knock the crap out of other players, at least more often than they would for PvE content.

Mists of Pandaria beta opt-in and official FAQ {WoW}

Mar 21st 2012 10:41PM I don't know, that's the point. In truth, I expect about a 6-8 month beta, but there are systems that have a bunch of complexity that wouldn't necessarily show a bug except in large amount of users testing. It could go longer.

Also, I tend to wonder about Murphy. I think everyone wants MoP's beta to be quick, and as such, everything that can go wrong, likely WILL go wrong.

Mists of Pandaria beta opt-in and official FAQ {WoW}

Mar 21st 2012 4:43AM @ravyncat

What would be worse - Release MoP early but have a bunch of issues ala Cataclysm, or Release MoP late and have it right. The Blizzard I knew would do the latter, I dunno what Activision Blizzard will do. Like I implied, there's a best case, a middle case, and a worst case.

If you don't assume there is a worst case, well I look at this way. If I assume worst case is next year, and we get it in Nov, I'm happy. If we get it in Aug-Sep, then I'm REALLY happy. If we get it next year, I'm not as happy, but I'm satisfied.

Now, if you don't, and assume it will come out in Aug, then when it comes out in Aug, you're satisfied. If it comes out in Nov/Dec, you're pissed. If it comes out next year, well you're likely so pissed as not to get it anymore.

If MoP sucks, I personally won't give WoW another shot on my own dime They had me with Wrath, lost me on Cata, and have a shot at getting me back with pandas. What I mean is I left EVE Online back in 09. I still get an email every 2 months or so, giving me 5 days free to play. I don't think I have used one in the past two years. The same would be for WoW.

Mists of Pandaria beta opt-in and official FAQ {WoW}

Mar 21st 2012 4:31AM @Spider

Many of the Annual Pass people will not likely be "testing", but be previewing. They want people willing to test and people with many different configurations of hardware.

Mists of Pandaria beta opt-in and official FAQ {WoW}

Mar 21st 2012 4:29AM I wonder if you have done software development? Are you expecting the beta to be pro forma? If so, why bother, just put it up on the PTR and release next month :)

MoP has a ton of systems changes, and none have to my knowledge been vetted by a large # of players. Maybe something in there doesn't work. Correction, with the amount of changes its likely several things don't work. They then are faced with a choice, either pull it or redesign, refactor, and/or rework. The same applies to content. Maybe there are whole questlines/instances which when they get more neutral testers in will show that they aren't fun. Redoing those is a bit easier than entire systems, but it still takes time. I think that from what I am seeing, MoP is actually bigger than Cata in terms of test domain.

Blizzard is famous for not releasing software unless its right. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing Blizz will not want to pull features, and will take the time to do it right. Had they done this with Cata, I think that they would be in a much different place now.

One of the biggest problems I think is that up to now most of the folks vetting MoP are either intimately familiar with the development and developers and have blind spots from it, or are "yes" people who wouldn't say something unless it was so obviously broken to be scary.

I think the larger test pool, especially if they use it properly will help a ton by that.

Mists of Pandaria beta opt-in and official FAQ {WoW}

Mar 21st 2012 3:16AM There's no real surprises here. I didn't think they would bring in all of the season pass people at once. I still wonder if they'll do something like testing weekends, and what not.

*IF* the beta does start in the next week or two, then it does put some creds on a early fall (Aug/Sep) release. But I don't really think so. I still suspect we'll see Nov/Dec at best, and more likely Feb/Mar of 13. The previous statement assumes that no feature of MoP will be cut before launch.

The main reason is that even if this game really is as polished and "done" as people say, no game has survived its beta period intact. Everyone makes changes. Take Diablo 3 for example. In fact Diablo 3's beta is probably the major reason why I say Feb/Mar.

From what I heard/saw is that Diablo 3 was pretty much ready for release back in Nov. In fact I saw a bunch of comments that said that D3's experience was less buggy and more ready that SWTOR's. And I honestly don't doubt it. Blizz leads in quality, and they do LEAD. So on that, with the amount of systems changing, and the ones being added, this will take time. It will be a ton of iterative development and iterative testing.

Of course the assumption I made before could be faulty, they could cut systems or content, and bring it in a later patch. That could bring in an earlier release, but for me, I think I'd just skip and wait for the the thing to be feature complete, letting my sub lapse.

After all, this year there will be a bunch of swtor patches, D3, STO updates, plus Guild Wars 2 is likely launching. Plus I still have a ton of Skyrim and Mass Effect 3, so I don't really need WoW.

The Daily Grind: Should new expansions include old expansions? {Massively}

Mar 20th 2012 12:55AM The thing that I always have found weird about WoW, is that its almost always full price. Every other game discounts itself. I remember being able to get UO for over half off about 6 months after launch.

I personally think there always should be one price and one box. I don't say this often, but the way EVE goes with always including expansions, is the way to go.

Mists of Pandaria: Pet Battles {WoW}

Mar 20th 2012 12:12AM I honestly wonder if this will get cut.

If Blizzard can and will cut PvP from Diablo 3, then I don't think anything's safe. And I don't mean this as a dig, just an observation.

I do wonder why they didn't put in an AI, the fighting against other players is pointless unless I have an idea of who I am beating and can brag about it. I can understand about lowering the barrier to entry, but by doing it this way, you're lowering the incentive to do it.

I can also see this as being a stigma. "lolol you won 200 pet battles, you must be too pathetic to fight real pvp and you're a kiddie lolol" and crap like that.

The Daily Grind: Should new expansions include old expansions? {Massively}

Mar 19th 2012 11:33PM The thing that I always have found weird about WoW, is that its almost always full price. Every other game discounts itself. I remember being able to get UO for over half off about 6 months after launch.

I personally think there always should be one price and one box. I don't say this often, but the way EVE goes with always including expansions, is the way to go.

Center your sights with MechWarrior Online's latest dev Q&A {Massively}

Mar 15th 2012 1:36AM I usually went for cockpit/head shots in MW4. I was quite good at it, I'm curious if the timing will be similar in this.

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