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Oct 27th 2011 1:18PM "And I expect (and hope) exotic pets will remain as they are. Not really fair on BM hunters to let every hunter have pets which were once unique to them (and a 31 point talent at that). That would be like making Black Arrow a baseline ability for every hunter."
LOL yes lets not give everyone the BM level 31 talent... but everyone should have the SV 31 point talent??? derp?
Oct 5th 2011 1:04AM *behind the MMs that are only doing 2k more than you.
Oct 5th 2011 1:00AM "The other thing that needs to be taken into account is that several of the lower ranked classes here are very powerful pvp classes because they have a great deal of control. Thus, they are tricky to buff without further skewing pvp. Case in point: frost mages."
I agree wholeheartedly with this, that is why we do not count hunters being 10/22 specs because some specs just do not even compute when it comes to PVE.
We use best spec for the class in our progression and when you look at it this way we have 10 classes that can dps and the hunters best spec is tied for 9th out of the 10 best specs for each class... that tells me that hunters are underpowered and slipping considerably throughout the heroic 25 man FL progression.
Oct 4th 2011 6:08PM [quote]Did the marksman Hunter do more dps than me? Yes. How much; 2k-3k. What gear was he in? 372 at the lowest but mostly 378.
I was geared in t11 gear and some pieces from the troll heroics.
The Rest of my raid was equally geared to the Hunter mentioned above.
Still i managed to come Third on the meters As an SV hunter. [/quote]
I wont say that anecdotal evidence is anecdotal,
You have some really bad dps in your guild if your 3rd on the meters using a second rank spec and a full tier to tier and 1/2 gear
Oct 4th 2011 1:57PM Your data looks just about what some of us have been saying for a while, In 10 man normals we are good, 10 man heroics we drop some, 25 man normals we drop more, and 25 man heroic we drop a big chunk. Now being median level in 25 heroics may be ok for some but not for hunters that are only a 1 trick pony.
25 man heroic all players have a spec they can go to that is way above median (10% - 33% above median except 3 classes. (Ret who is 2% below, FDK's at median and hunters at median)
Hunters do not have an option of going to an above average spec because there best spec (MM) is tied for 9th of 10 according to your graphs, (and all the information we have been trying to tell you for the last week)
Looking just at your numbers and say your in a progression 25, and the last raid spot is including 1 hunter or a 2nd fury, what would you choose? A 3rd boomkin or a hunter?
A 2nd rogue or a hunter?
The list goes on and on and includes all but a ret, and they bring raid buffs, salv, bop, mana regen, passive healing etc etc, so even tho they are a bit below a hunter at that level it is conceivable you would bring them over a hunter because of all the plus's it brings.
This is the state of progression huntering, and what I have been trying to get you to see from the beginning.
Sep 22nd 2011 3:20PM @Revynn
If you are going to be on the small adds (we call it playing goalie), make sure your MM spec includes Concussive Barrage and Bombardment. With the nerfs you can solo the adds.
The bigger small spiders... well you just have to do them to get a feel how to blow them up and stay out of the stun/poison that they do. Don't waste time with traps at all and make sure you have it worked out with your assigned healer how far from the middle you can be and still get healed. If you go beyond a set point you wont get heals and your death can easily wipe the raid.