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Wolfheart audiobook on sale now, listen to samples for free {WoW}

Apr 4th 2012 5:09PM Don't suppose it's free to people who have a WoW account? Specifically Alliance side players? No?

I'm sure it'll be on torrent sites for free download in no time. :D

Know Your Lore: Never to rise again {WoW}

Apr 4th 2012 2:57PM Apologies if this is a repost. It never seems to work the first time I try to post anything.

Great read, Rossi.

I've always thought the Lich King was one of WoW's best characters. Ner'Zhul in the armor and a corrupted paladin prince joined together. And unlike some other characters, I think they offed ol' Lichy Kingy at the right time. Arthas's downfall was complete, he'd secured dominion over much of Northrend and built up a powerful army and was starting to threaten the world.

Ner'Zhul reaching out to Arthas to escape the confines of the Throne was a beautiful storyline. Though, it gets a bit muddled as to who the Lich King was... Arthas or Ner'Zhul? I like to think that it was always largely Ner'Zhul... otherwise his victory over the Legion (escaping the throne) becomes rather diluted. But Arthas is undeniably in there somewhere too, and now Bolvar. I like to think with the body dead, and the sword broken, Arthas was completely gone, leaving only Ner'Zhul.


Ner'zhul is the Lich and Arthas/Bolvar is the King, so to speak... I like that, as it means the two sides can't become a physical leader without one another. The time spent on the throne, frozen in ice, like Bolvar is now, and Arthas was before is when the two sides fight and attempt to subjugate one another.... Ner'Zhul and Bolvar now. and once it ends, you have a resurgent scourge. They cycle begins anew and the Lich King must be slain again.

The unending nature of it leads to the idea becoming boring eventually. But the undeath-cycle is such a satisfying representation of the total corruption of life that it makes my mind race with creative ideas. Arthas, the body, the physical won the last time. What happens if Ner'Zhul wins out next time? Also, the fact that he's both Orc and Human is brilliant in the context of the WoW universe. What does the Lich king represent in THAT context?

Such a great character.

That said, I wish the Scarlets, maybe Jaina, and Sylvanas had been involved in the final fight somehow. All were more relevant to the Lich King than Tyrion really. Plus, they could have been the Deus ex machina rather than a 10 minute long prayer to break an ice block and a dead guy casting mass rez. (Though I DID enjoy the latter.)

Know Your Lore: Never to rise again {WoW}

Apr 4th 2012 2:56PM Great read, Rossi.

I've always thought the Lich King was one of WoW's best characters. Ner'Zhul in the armor and a corrupted paladin prince joined together. And unlike some other characters, I think they offed ol' Lichy Kingy at the right time. Arthas's downfall was complete, he'd secured dominion over much of Northrend and built up a powerful army and was starting to threaten the world.

Ner'Zhul reaching out to Arthas to escape the confines of the Throne was a beautiful storyline. Though, it gets a bit muddled as to who the Lich King was... Arthas or Ner'Zhul? I like to think that it was always largely Ner'Zhul... otherwise his victory over the Legion (escaping the throne) becomes rather diluted. But Arthas is undeniably in there somewhere too, and now Bolvar. I like to think with the body dead, and the sword broken, Arthas was completely gone, leaving only Ner'Zhul.


Ner'zhul is the Lich and Arthas/Bolvar is the King, so to speak... I like that, as it means the two sides can't become a physical leader without one another. The time spent on the throne, frozen in ice, like Bolvar is now, and Arthas was before is when the two sides fight and attempt to subjugate one another.... Ner'Zhul and Bolvar now. and once it ends, you have a resurgent scourge. They cycle begins anew and the Lich King must be slain again.

The unending nature of it leads to the idea becoming boring eventually. But the undeath-cycle is such a satisfying representation of the total corruption of life that it makes my mind race with creative ideas. Arthas, the body, the physical won the last time. What happens if Ner'Zhul wins out next time? Also, the fact that he's both Orc and Human is brilliant in the context of the WoW universe. What does the Lich king represent in THAT context?

Such a great character.

That said, I wish the Scarlets, maybe Jaina, and Sylvanas had been involved in the final fight somehow. All were more relevant to the Lich King than Tyrion really. Plus, they could have been the Deus ex machina rather than a 10 minute long prayer to break an ice block and a dead guy casting mass rez. (Though I DID enjoy the latter.)

The Queue: Attack of the Killer Tomatoes {WoW}

Apr 4th 2012 1:55PM I dunno why everyone thinks Argus is logical. I mean it's been a demon controlled world for thousands of years. If it's not blown up, I would think they'd outnumber all of Azeroth a million to one. Maybe a small expedition into it, but "taking it" seems very absurd to me.

Never really understood why we have to fight and kill Sargeras at the end of the whole game either. I like to think he's a bit out of any small group of people's league. I mean look at Archimonde. Took ALOT more than 25 of the world's best to stop him. How can Sargeras end up taking less?

Nevermind... I just remembered Green Jesus....I'm sure he'll make all the difference... -_-


Anyways, There's unexplored parts of outland, plus Wherever Alleria and Turalyon went. (Xoroth? Argus?) We're missing Kul Tiras, Tel'Abim, both of Azeroth's moons, the Emerald Dream. I'd like to see Blizzard continue to develop new lore in new places. Especially new worlds. Think how cool Nagrand and Zangarmarsh were when they came out!

Well, really I'd like to see is continued development in the old world, since it's a hotbed of potential lore and coflict. I mean really...things would be significantly changing at a rapid pace there. Old world zones are starting to feel small sometimes too... alot crammed into a tiny space.

But I don't think either of those are realistic goals without a redesign of the whole world... ala WoW2.

Why is Blizzard still OK with gender inequality in World of Warcraft? {WoW}

Apr 3rd 2012 6:59PM Apologies if this a a double post, but this comment system BLOWS.

Okay, checkit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_dimorphism

Sexual Dimorphism folks, all the races in wow have it. All races in wow have beefier males. (Will set the standard for masculine beauty.) and lithe petite females. (Will set the standard for feminine beauty.)

Now, for modern humans, aeons of cultural development has associated masculine beauty with musculature, and athletic ability. Meanwhile feminine beauty has become associated with an appearance indicating fertility. In very recent times, perceived feminine beauty has been being pushed to be more akin to masculine beauty, emphasizing Athletic ability, but through agility rather than musculature.

This shift has been a result of equality movements and the fact that bearing children is a VERY small part of what a woman is. Our sexual dimorphism restricts a womans potential ability to match the mass and strength of a male's potential ability. However, speed and agility and flexibility are goals where the female form can match or exceed the male form.

Thus we have the ideals of beauty emerging today, which are what are cast in WoW. I recognize there is alot more to say here, but I'm trying to keep my post short. There are many forms of male and female beauty today, etc, etc... that's not my ponit, so don't go off on a tangent.

My point is this:
In WoW, and also some of modern culture:
male beauty derives from athletic ability, but emphasizes strength and mass.
female beauty derives from athletic ability but emphasizes finesse and agility.

So to call a male character Strong looking IS to call him attractive.
to call him attractive is to call him Strong looking

To call a female character attractive is to imply she's agile looking.
to call her agile looking, is it not the same as calling her attractive?

One, in Azeroth, wouldn't imply that a human woman warrior is strong because her strength will mean crap compared to a Tauren warrior. She defeats him by being faster, smarter and deadlier.

But really, compared to a Tauren Male warrior....I would think all Gnomes, Goblins, Humans and Blood Elves of either gender will be relying on their agility.

The conclusions are not simply mine to draw, but I hope I've given you something to consider. Perhaps if Ji called all the ladies agile-looknig instead of pretty, nobody would be complaining? Or if he called the men handsome instead of strong looking? Or if he was a female?

Why is Blizzard still OK with gender inequality in World of Warcraft? {WoW}

Apr 3rd 2012 6:56PM Okay, checkit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_dimorphism

Sexual Dimorphism folks, all the races in wow have it. All races in wow have beefier males. (Will set the standard for masculine beauty.) and lithe petite females. (Will set the standard for feminine beauty.)

Now, for modern humans, aeons of cultural development has associated masculine beauty with musculature, and athletic ability. Meanwhile feminine beauty has become associated with an appearance indicating fertility. In very recent times, perceived feminine beauty has been being pushed to be more akin to masculine beauty, emphasizing Athletic ability, but through agility rather than musculature.

This shift has been a result of equality movements and the fact that bearing children is a VERY small part of what a woman is. Our sexual dimorphism restricts a womans potential ability to match the mass and strength of a male's potential ability. However, speed and agility and flexibility are goals where the female form can match or exceed the male form.

Thus we have the ideals of beauty emerging today, which are what are cast in WoW. I recognize there is alot more to say here, but I'm trying to keep my post short. There are many forms of male and female beauty today, etc, etc... that's not my ponit, so don't go off on a tangent.

My point is this:
In WoW, and also some of modern culture:
male beauty derives from athletic ability, but emphasizes strength and mass.
female beauty derives from athletic ability but emphasizes finesse and agility.

So to call a male character Strong looking IS to call him attractive.
to call him attractive is to call him Strong looking

To call a female character attractive is to imply she's agile looking.
to call her agile looking, is it not the same as calling her attractive?

One, in Azeroth, wouldn't imply that a human woman warrior is strong because her strength will mean crap compared to a Tauren warrior. She defeats him by being faster, smarter and deadlier.

But really, compared to a Tauren Male warrior....I would think all Gnomes, Goblins, Humans and Blood Elves of either gender will be relying on their agility.

The conclusions are not simply mine to draw, but I hope I've given you something to consider. Perhaps if Ji called all the ladies agile-looknig instead of pretty, nobody would be complaining? Or if he called the men handsome instead of strong looking? Or if he was a female?

I don't think any of those options REALLY change anything... but rather people who think the do are the ones who are truly biased.

Why is Blizzard still OK with gender inequality in World of Warcraft? {WoW}

Apr 3rd 2012 5:28PM Well said.

I was trying to find a well written objective comment to throw my 2 cents in on, and I like yours.

WOW is a roleplaying game, the gender of your character, at least in my opinion should affect the dialogue. I find Ji's comments a little weird for either gender, but not the tiniest remotest bit offensive.

Azeroth is a virtual world, if you see someone making slightly off-color comments based on your gender...well....good. There should be people like that in Azeroth because I highly doubt that amongst all the races of murdering monsters, a crude flirtatious line is taboo!
Furthermore, why should Pandaren culture be a glorified replica of Americana? Perhaps the women in Pandaren culture hold a special place for their feminine form. Perhaps the Night Elves are a Matriarchal society. (Oh wait... they are! Not that there's any evidence to support it in game...)

Now, I realize I'm opening a can of worms and that blizzard can't let us see all the ugly sociopaths and deviants of Azeroth, but they do have to draw a line somewhere, else we end up in an Orwellian game where the words "he" and "her" are outlawed!

I recall the question of the month one time was "why don't we see more gay characters in wow"? And the simplest answer is, how do you know who is gay in WoW?
I meant unless you make them all terrible stereotypes, or all proposition your characters, HOW will you know which characters are and aren't of a different persuasion? Maybe Gryan Stoutmantle is checking out my Draenei as he walks away, it'd be silly for his opening line to me to be to establish his sexuality!

But, if he did make a little comment, i'd probably chuckle a bit and keep going. And throwing one or two characters in the game who do that would certainly improve the game.



Anyways, I'm getting off track, let me sumamrize. This article is nitpicking, I know I've turned alot of you away with that simple statement, but please hear me out and consider. The message is good, but the examples are bad... Ji's comment is harmless and equally weird for each gender.. and if it's not, he's a male panda. If they need to make a female panda call my male character handsome, and my female character strong to keep his comments in, then fine. Do that. Or make Ji call the females strong and the male pretty. I'd enjoy the joke.
The bikini armor is gone in recent expansions, which makes me sad. But you have a good point. I'd like my Orc Warrior to be able to show off his chest and mighty calves! Objectify both genders please, Blizz. The armor is all optional anyways, and I like the options.

But the real crux of the issue isn't armor and leering pandas. It's things like Tyrande, the leader of a matriarchal society being marginalized by her largely comatose husband. It's Jaina being a fount of tears instead of arcane might. And it's alot of infantile players making stupid comments to other players (That is really the biggest problem). There IS gender inequality in wow, but I feel this article is really nipping at it's heels instead of tackling it head on.

Our games reflect our culture. Funny how a virtual issue can also be a real issue, eh?

Know Your Lore: The curious dissonance of Alliance leveling {WoW}

Apr 2nd 2012 1:48PM "The Alliance already has plenty of "lighthearted moments" and frankly, players hate most of them because they feel like they've been written as a distraction from the story and not actually part of the narrative."

they've been written as a distraction from the story and not actually part of the narrative."

NAIL: "Oh hello there Hammer!"
HAMMER: "Hey there Nail how's it going?"
NAIL: "...what..what are you doing..?"
HAMMER: "Nothing pal, just relax!"
*WHAM!*
NAIL: "OW! My head!"

Know Your Lore: The hour of the king {WoW}

Mar 28th 2012 5:38PM @ clundgren

Actually, the Alliance helped baine retake Thunder Bluff. I do believe Anduin Wrynn himself gave Baine a sweet mace, and Jaina played a pivotal role in helping him retake Thunder Bluff.

Know Your Lore: The hour of the king {WoW}

Mar 28th 2012 5:14PM @ Rossi

Good post, I accept your your distinction between Alliances and Hordes. Though, Varian tends to order his "Allies" around in game. Not relevant to the current argument... but a reminder that literal terms don't often have their defined meanings in WoW.

So yeah, I concede that the Horde is responsible for what's going on in Lordaeron. As to what Varian actually knows, alot of it is speculation on my part and yours. My worgen warrior however, recalls overhearing Sylvanas plotting to use the plague despite Garrosh's strict orders. And Varian knows firsthand that the Wrathgate pissed Thrall off. So, I think he has reason to doubt the Horde's unity.

Sure Garrosh is in "Charge" but he has Sylvanas out of control in the eastern kingdoms, doing whatever she wants, despite his orders. Sure he's got a token force of troops there, but you're right...what DO they do except allow it to happen. He's got the Tauren having a Grimtotem revolution, that had to be put down in part by the Alliance. He's got Vol'Jin coming to the Alliance for help, because he knows that their leadership is more stable.

Garrosh IS a terrible warchief in Varian's eyes because he fails to command the Horde well. And he's gotta know Sylvanas is outta control, but does he do anything to stop her? I don't think Varian holds the Horde responsible for what it does, but for what it fails to do. I mean, do you blame Dr. Frankenstein, or do you blame his Monster? Garrosh fails in his responsibility, but he's not solely responsible for his monster's actions.

That said, I don't question that Varian blames the orcs for Lordaeron, but I'd think he still has to blame the forsaken more. As for knowing the difference between forsaken and scourge.... factions talk? There are forsaken in the Argent Crusade, and other external factions, and forsaken would take offense to being called scourge, I would think. So, really Varian has to have at least heard rumors that the Forsaken consider themselves different from the Lich King's minions...

But he doesn't really have to believe it. Hell, I don't think most of my Alliance or Horde characters would believe it. Have you seen all the crazy shit the forsaken are up to around the world? Even my forsaken character has a hard time believeing they're different!

But again, there's no telling what faction leaders do and don't know, it IS mostly speculaton between us. If you have people teleporting all over the world, and third party factions accepting all applicants, information should be pretty accessible, right?

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