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Know Your Lore: Never to rise again {WoW}

Apr 4th 2012 5:18PM Personally I don't believe the Valkyr. It is made abundantly clear that except for that on village in Storm Peaks that the Vrykul worship Arthas and willingly serve him. There's even Valkyrion where the women aspire to become Valkyrs.

So what if all this is some plot by a hidden part of Ner'zhul to get him a more pliable host. One already walking down a dark path. One that he wou;dn't have to fight tooth and nail to gain dominance over.

Know Your Lore: The haunting legacy of Grom Hellscream {WoW}

Mar 27th 2012 7:07AM @Clundgren

It's not just Cata. Cata just made it more obvious. Let's take a step back in time.

The Forsaken are seen developing a plague, with assistance players and some Tauren (probably Grimtotem) back in Vanilla and testing it on captured human prisoners. They also blatantly assault the npcs around Dalaran (wearing Dalaran tabards) and yet said city allows them into their city in Wrath. Basically all the quests in Hillsbrad involved Tarren Mill fucking up Southshore.

In Arathi the Horde are clearly dominant with their questlines leading to the death of the heir to Stromgarde (who becomes a horde questgiver in Cata).

These are just a few examples are these are events older players most likely remember. MoP is the FIRST xpac where the Alliance are basically well and truely fed up being the nice guys and shrugging off aggression for the sake of the "greater good". And without Jaina playing miss goody-goody you'll have an Alliance firmly behind the idea that enough is enough.


Should the Alliance win out and out? No, the Horde aren't pussies (cept for them there Blood Elves) so they'll fight tooth and nail even if their warchief is turning into a gibbering idiot.

Should the Alliance gain ascendency? This is trickier. The Alliance has been held back by the fact that they've never been all behind the idea of war, and the fact that it's basically a democracy holds it back. But it has been stated that the Alliance should they get 100% behind the war would have a technological and magical edge over the Horde. That and the fact that the Alliance is, as a whole, far more tightly knit than the Horde.

The Forsaken and Belves view is that it's an alliance of necessity. And although people liked to cite that Sylvanas was really loyal to the Horde that is now in open debate.

Know Your Lore: The haunting legacy of Grom Hellscream {WoW}

Mar 25th 2012 6:49PM Come again? Alliance lore and story has always taken a backseat to Horde development. And in a way it's understandable. The Alliance was already pretty much made by the time WoW rolled around (though they've yet to really explain how and why the Night Elves joined the Alliance) while the Horde was still new and fresh and with plenty of room for development.

Until Wrath the one interesting thing the Alliance had was the "Grand Masquerade" quest. And even in Wrath, a supposedly "Alliance xpac" there was a lot of development highlighting the Horde under Garrosh. It's about damn time we get some true Alliance character development that all the sissies that can't be assed to pick up a book can see run it's course.

Mists of Pandaria: Siege of Orgrimmar {WoW}

Mar 19th 2012 9:43PM Problem with that is that the Alliance went through all of that while Varian was gone and Onyxia was masquerading as the top advisor.

Also, I recommend that you pick up Wolfheart. Varian gets his dark half under control, and he also had the opportunity to kill Garrosh but held back because the charge to kill him would likely have led to numerous deaths in the Ashenvale defenders. So I think his standing with the Alliance leaders is at an alltime high.

Finally if you bother to pay attention, Varian is always coldly in control when he faced down Garrosh (his smile of "he's mine" in Dalaran), whereas Garrosh is the one that goes berserk.

Mists of Pandaria: Siege of Orgrimmar {WoW}

Mar 19th 2012 6:43AM Big difference is that Varian has received development, both ingame and in books since, despite what naysayers would have you think, he was fairly well received.

Garrosh on the other hand has had little to no development ingame, no development in the books other than being a typical warmonger. Basically what I see happening is that the Horde are going to continue from Cata only to realise that

1)they didn't much like sacking Theramore and

2)The Alliance are suddenly fighting with a viciousness only the older orcs remember, a la Blackrock Spire. With Garrosh refusing to even contemplate negotiation the Horde turn on him, orcs like Saurfang terrified at the thought of the internment camps again.

Know Your Lore: 5 must-do Alliance zones to complete before Mists {WoW}

Mar 18th 2012 10:09PM Scariest part of Duskwood would be wandering through the graveyard minding your own business when Mor'Ladim sneaks up on you and goes Trojan on your ass.

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