Jun 15th 2010 9:35PM @cjono7 Ah yes, I used Sony Ericsson V800 in 2005 when the 3G network was just launched! Video call ftw
Jun 15th 2010 9:34PM @fadetowhite 3 years for a phone??? I don't even know whether I'll be in the same country in 3 years!!!
Jun 15th 2010 9:24PM @huh I am not aware of that. Is this a canadian thing?
So if you purchase a phone from other countries unlocked and slip in your simcard you will get this subsidization fee? What?
Jun 15th 2010 9:11PM @huh What the hell $400 in subsidy fees for?
Jun 15th 2010 9:11PM @illutionz I should say the stores that have an option to preorder do have the writings indicating that they will be fully unlocked
Jun 15th 2010 9:10PM @sys3175 Right and I do have multiple SIM cards to use in other countries. I used to have an iPhone and yes I did unlock it no problem. The only annoying part from illegally unlocking the iPhone is that you have to play cat and mouse with Apple to maintain the unlock. I have no problem if Apple is consistent with this, and they have so far until iPhone 4.
The problem I see today is that Apple is able to offer a fully unlocked phones in a couple countries but here. I have checked various Apple Stores from different countries and they all do have this option to purchase an unlocked phones.
It seems that Apple is willing to sell their iPhones unlocked at full price but there is something preventing them to do so. My guess is that Steve Jobs need to give his right hand to AT&T if they are selling the unlocked iPhone in the US... but who knows
Jun 15th 2010 9:03PM @dmo580 People who uses T-Mobile with their iPhone is rather foolish. I am using T-Mobile right now and will be switching to AT&T once I get my unlocked iPhone 4 from Canada.
Still doesn't explain why AT&T should be allowed to lock the phone if we choose to purchase it OUTRIGHT at FULL PRICE so we can use it overseas for travel.
Jun 15th 2010 9:01PM @AuggieBenDoggie I'm an Apple fan and would gladly join this particular class action lawsuit when there's one.
Jun 15th 2010 9:00PM @ghostdog People who travel and do not want to play cat and mouse game with Apple by unlocking their phone illegally.
Jun 15th 2010 8:58PM @sys3175 Right I'm not saying they should do away with AT&T. In fact, T-Mobile 3G footprint is so terrible that I don't even consider it a coverage. Apple should indeed stick with AT&T. I will be importing these unlocked iPhones from Canada/Europe/Asia and use it with AT&T.... but when I travel, I will not have to unlock it illegally and able to use local SIM card easily
Verizon (and Sprint) are both not good either because their choice of using a CDMA technology which (again) restricted people who travel overseas.
The point I'm making is that they can OFFER to sell the phone full price + unlocked AS WELL AS offering them through carrier with subsidized pricing and locked baseband. They are DOING this very thing in the UK that you can purchase sim free unlocked iPhone 4 for 499 pounds from Apple as well as subsidized iPhone 4 from O2/Vodafone/Orange.
I just find it appalling that in the UK where all carriers are competing and use the same UMTS band (a.k.a people can actually use 3G with O2/Vodafone/Orange on their iPhone), Apple offered the option to get it unlocked sim free. However, in the US where there is practically only 1 GSM carriers you can use full capabilities of your iPhone (3G connectivity), Apple is not able to offer us this option.
This sounds like something that AT&T forces upon Apple 3 years ago when nobody would take the iPhone but AT&T.
Obivously not make people around here would like to pay $600 for a phone when you can get the same thing for $200 but offering an unlocked option is clearly not out of Apple's playbook but there's something preventing them to do so. Business decision? Contracts? Who knows.