Sep 3rd 2007 9:33AM There are 2 sides to the issue that everyone keeps crossing. On side A, you have utility. On Side B, you have talents.
Those are the key issues with priests that a lot of people are up in flames about.
With utility, we simply want more for raid options. I can see where Blizzard thinks Priests are just fine, for the most part. A priest is pure healing. They are the direct link to the MT. When you need to keep someone up, a priest is the way to go. In a 10 man raid situation, possibly even a 25, one priest is all you need to toss out a few renews and keep a primary up. Blizzard wants to spread the healing duties around, thus the tweaks and upgrades to other classes. As a raiding group, we're asked if we want a little more utility or more direct healing. We already have a healbot, why not add a little more utility with other classes. This can be both a good thing and a bad thing. If my guess is any right, most realms are a little low on priests. And if you're a raiding priest, nothing irks you more than being replaced by another healing class, for whatever reason.
As for the talent tree issue, we do need help. For the most part, they're playable with a lot of grumbling. Sure, we'd love to see something a little more flashy and more "efficient". And ya know what? Maybe we even deserve it. After all, we have to spec in 2 tree's for a good, IMO, healing build, whereas many of the other classes can just focus on one tree. What we need is a good hard look at the tree's and find a focus for the Discipline tree. That's the problem here. Many healing talents are spread between holy and discipline, forcing priests into a hybrid. We want what other classes have, clear and defined roles for each tree, or so I'm led to believe. Shadow is for DPS, Holy should be for healing, and when I think of Discipline, I think mitigation. Priest Tank FTW! I kid, but even still. Just give our 2 tree some focus. That's what we want.
Now, I've probably stepped on toes, but who cares anymore. For those outside the priest class, we've multiple issues that, for the most part, fall within the 2 core issues. Talents and Utility. I'm just doing by best to clarify ^_^.
Aug 26th 2007 2:08PM We should be asking...does the knockback effect of Prince negate the Siphon effect of Hakkar? If not, I'd say it'll be close. If it does, hands down, Prince. The prince just gets more damage output as the fight continues. IF he can get Hakkar down in 10 minutes, it's golden. If Hakkar can last 10 minutes, he might be able to pull ahead, but chances are slim. That's a long fight with the Prince only getting more options as he takes damage.
Aug 26th 2007 2:00PM Hakkar and Prince meet at a bar. some oaf spills a drink on Hakkar and he assume's it was the Prince behind him. Fight ensues.
They DOT each other up, Hakkar rushing in to melee. Prince uses his Shadow Nova, pushing Hakkar back and begins summoning infernals. Hakkar bulls ahead once more.They pummel each other, infernals raining down. Hakkar uses his first blood siphon and Prince throws him back again with Shadow Nova. They go back and forth, Hakkar Hovering around 85-90% until Prince hits the 60% mark. Using Shadow Nova again, he pushes Hakkar back and begins an all out with his summoned Axes. Hakkar's health starts falling more towards 60, then 50 and they even out at 40% health, cleaving and thrashing the whole way. Hakker hits his 10 minute enrage. They duke it out, Prince's axes flying all over as they pummel Hakkar. Prince continues to use Shadow Nova to his advantage, pushing back Hakkar. Hakkar's Siphon is reduced as the Prince's damage output increases through Cleave, Thrashing, and summoned infernals.
In the end, Hakkar falls dead, pummeled and burned to singe as Prince stands victorious with 15% heal and a legion of infernals behind him.
Just my $.02
Aug 10th 2007 9:24AM Dwarf Priest. Level 70. Created Oct 2006. Reason: Guild was lacking in Priests. Racial: Fear Ward and Desperate Prayer. Other options: Night Elf, at least they looked good. Dwarves are just stumpy and repulsive.
Begin Rant: Probably long.
Now. I am all for the Horde receiving Fear Ward and even Desperate Prayer. That would equalize the balance on both sides of the faction. I encourage and promote that. And Only THAT. The soul decision in why I picked a dwarven priest was for a racial difference other than a materialist view. If you're going to "spread the love" then you better damn well replace the dwarven racial with something as viable that made me want to play this toon. Hell, I'll let you pass on the racial if YOU BUFF MY CLASS! Lightwell is good for one thing. Little next to nothing. AND YET YOU KEEP BUFFING THE MOST RETARDED TALENT IN THE GAME. For crying out loud, buff the damn Discipline tree! My 4 year old nephew could do better than that! Give us a TRUE AOE, no that pathetic waste of mana I only use rank one in Arena's for. You've spit on my class since I started it and my guild suffers from it. I no longer take joy in the class cause every time I raid, I want to unplug my damned computer.
Yes, I understand that working with healing mechanics can be difficult and be limited in particular use. But let's see. Our main heals are just that. Main heals. No spice, no fun. Just a button clicked every 3 seconds while our toon stands still. We have a HoT. A lightwell with 5/6? charges. An AOE Damage/Heal that's useless. Instant AOE heal, individual groups only. Prayer of Healing, long cast time and not viable for mana/dps intensive fights. PoM, decent if it stayed on those taking damage, though I admit I tend to get a little close.
Now, you doorknobs that inspired me to attempt a degree in Game Design. How about Infusion. Increase targets defense/sta by decreasing your health by 1k?
Create a channeled shield over members. Any damage a member takes would be mitigated by a HoT for the amount or % damage dealt.
20 second buffs to mix and add excitement to the class. That's what I want most. 20 seconds of anything. Increased dps by a % of your spirit to your target. Sta, Int, crit %, def, anything you want. A 20 second regen buff, akin to innervate. Of course, I'm starting to mesh shaman ideas into this, and I apologize. Now lets start bouncing idea's off that wall you've so cleverly tacked a picture of a priest to. Stop throwing the darts and be constructive! And no more BS about you being comfortable with how the priest class performs.
Yours Truly, Neifir of Tanaris
Aug 8th 2007 11:06AM My guild, Dominion on Tanaris, is a Casual Raiding Guild. With about 40 raiding members and our plethora of alts, we've made it all the way up to the Prince in Kara. Pretty good for a guild only 3 or 4 months old now ^_^. We also do not use dkp. Why? We're all dedicated. I'm probably the only one who's a filler as a raider. Out of WoW commitments and all, but when they need a healer and I'm on, you bet I'm there. Our drops are dispersed upon need and through the master looter system. We felt that DKP was good for a larger raiding guild, but for a smaller it, it was a hassle. I was asked to pass on the belt drop from Illhoof for the reason of being a fill in. And I understand the reasoning. If I were more fulltime, we raid 3-4 nights a week, I'd have had an equal chance to roll. Even then, I'd have passed. The other priest had more of a need for it as I've got most of my Primal Mooncloth set. We've already kicked a member or two for "lieing" about their gear. As in, finding under-par gear to swap into during raid to hopefully get a better shot at the good stuff. Our Guild/Raid leader caught on real quick. Such a direct intent to swindle gear earned a /gkick. Though I really liked a particular member, we all did, that was un-excusable. Well, enough of the drama. Enjoy ^_^
Jul 26th 2007 3:06AM oo oo that'd look neato with my dwarven priest.
Jul 23rd 2007 9:20AM A tauren, a night elf, and a dwarf walk into a bar. The dwarf kept walking.
Mar 26th 2007 1:04PM Tanaris server's infamous person would be Neff. He used to be notorious for Guild Hopping but found a nice home at Profane, which suits his presence well. He's ignored by half the people on the Alliance side. He'll sit in IF/Shat all day, filling up trade chat with useless talk and bantering, egging anyone not smart enough to steer clear from him. He has the ability to aggravate anyone in any way. I tried to keep an open mind, even defended him once while playing my female Rogue. The thanks I got was an insult about gender confusion and lack of a "personal life". I mean, what gives? I don't know why people feel the need to be outright rude and discourteous to others. That's what aggravates me to no end. Infamous in the end, I guess people want fame no matter the cost :P