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Ventrilo vs. Mumble {WoW}

Jul 18th 2010 4:45PM The problem is that individual users have normalize and everyone is setting volume on everyone else, which ends up being a giant hack-kludge around the problem. The philosophy is the everyone should be clearly heard by everyone else; I've never been on a Vent server that had everyone set up properly, in years and years on vent.

The problem with Ventrilo's latency isn't your ping, it's the latency in the audio encoding it uses. You can be playing with a 0 ping and still have a half-second of latency on audio. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMfF36NvoJc - he compares the latency inherent in each product there. It's pretty night and day.

Ventrilo vs. Mumble {WoW}

Jul 18th 2010 4:36PM I definitely recommend Mumble where possible, but if you're on Linux and stuck on Vent, check out the Mangler project. It's a native Linux vent client (but even the project leads on it say to use Mumble! :D)

Ventrilo vs. Mumble {WoW}

Jul 18th 2010 4:03PM Ventrilo has a half-second frame buffer, which means that even if you were on a LAN with the server there would still be a minimum of a half-second delay in the audio stream. Over the internet, you have that half-second plus sending and receiving users' latencies.

Vent with GSM sounds pretty decent, but there's no GSM support for the Mac, so Vent servers are stuck with Speex, which is okay, but isn't nearly as good as GSM, and certainly nowhere nearly as good as CELT (which is the codec Mumble and TS3 use. http://www.celt-codec.org/ for more info) on either of the quality of latency fronts.

Ventrilo vs. Mumble {WoW}

Jul 18th 2010 2:51PM You can't tell people you disconnected over Blizzard's voice chat. It being tied to being in game is something of a liability.

Ventrilo vs. Mumble {WoW}

Jul 18th 2010 2:03PM Mumble has a frame buffer of as low as 10 ms. vent has a 500 ms buffer, which means it collects at least a half second of audio before sending anything. If you and the person you are talking to have 100ms latency, there is 700ms of pages between when you talk and when they hear you on vent. On mumble, that is as low as 210ms.

I love mumble, and have been using it for almost a year now with great success. I actually love it so much that I set up a Mumble hosting service - http://mmo-mumble.com - so that others could enjoy it too. So far, folks seem to like it. :)

AddOn Spotlight: SexyCooldown {WoW}

Mar 18th 2010 5:44PM Not currently. Temporary enchant durations don't use the conventional buff APIs, so they got left out. They could be added with not too much pain, though.

AddOn Spotlight: SexyCooldown {WoW}

Mar 18th 2010 5:42PM Correct, it will not track others' cooldowns. However, someone could roll a module to do that pretty easily - SexyCooldown is very extensible as a general-purpose timer framework.

AddOn Spotlight: SexyCooldown {WoW}

Mar 18th 2010 2:07PM It was absolutely inspired by Forte, but I wrote it because a) I wanted a bar that could do things that Forte couldn't, and b) I wasn't happy with the amount of CPU time that Forte chewed up. It is, of course, up to the user to decide what they like better. :)