Apr 6th 2008 10:06PM Abbility versus abbility, I'd call it for Illidan. Seeing as how one is undead and the other is a bloody deamon, the Shadow damage means almost nothing. However in the contest of fire versus ice, Illidan comes out strong. Further, Lich or not a Lich, Kel is a caster type of being, and Illidan has very strong capacity as both a fighter type and a caster type. This puts him in an advantage position twice over; he might not be able to quite match Kel as a caster, but he trounces him physically and isn't a push over with spells in any case. Lastly, Illidan can heal himself, Kel can't. Even reguarding MC (which might work on the Elementals but really shouldn't work to any great degree on Illidan), Slowdown effects (Illidan has a lot of spells that work from range), and even his Mana Det. (Nasty as all hell, but his only real unavoidable trump in this match) Kel shouldn't win. Note, this doesn't even take Shear into account.
Lore wise we're in a bit of a more tight space. Illidan may not be a big nasty necromancy spewing Lich, but it's not like Deamons who specilize in Deamon Hunting are made out of paper mache. Kel has some extensive magely backround, and is a Lich made by the Arthas himself. He has an extensive history of being a cunning, deceptive opponent gifted not only with incrediable offensive magics, but illusions and misdirection spells as well.
However, as was pointed out before, just because Arthas beat Illidan doesn't mean much. Simply put, Kel'Thuzad isn't Arthas. In fact, he is an underling of Arthas. His most powerful underling perhaps, one with extensive powers and great capacity for misdirection...but an underling none the less...and the cut scene in WCIII didn't show the Arthas/Illidan fight as being completely one-sided. Arthas's blow, as nasty as he was, didn't kill; it just wounded, and that leave even moe holes in the "Arthas won, so Illidan would automatically loose" argument.
Lore wise, the advantage goes to Illidan assuming an even playing field. If Kel'Thuzad had any amount of time to prepare or ambush Illidan, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt; anyone who can raise a dark cult in the shadow of the Cathedrials of Light is pretty damn sneaky, and could probably come up with a strategy that, even one on one, would result in an extreme advantage.
However, since this contest is assuming even playing fields, I vote Illidan. Abbility, lore, or both...it really doesn't matter. He simply shows up too strong against the competition.
Jan 18th 2008 7:23PM A. The term "Gameplay Issue" can be used fairly broadly; if something harms or detract from my enjoyment of the game, that is, in effect, a game play issue.
Example: If I have spend several hundred gold on doing a particular mission for a particular reward, and the reward is removed from the game without notification of any kind...my gameplay experience has just suffered.
Example: If the people who run, service, and make the game that pay money give poor service, that experience is likely to poorly color all of the time I spend upon the game.
In other words, gameplay issues, whether good or bad, neither start or stop with the numbers.
B. My point is that people complain and cry fowl over every little thing that happens to their class. They cite examples of unfairness, bring out pages and pages of exposition. When ANOTHER class has something happen it's "ROFLMAO. Less QQ, mor PewPew. L2play noob. Bliz 0wnzers the gamzerz."
In other words, every one is self interested until things happen to them, and it's an amusing thing to watch.
Jan 18th 2008 1:44PM I love people on forums. If it doesn't hurt your class, it's QQing. I'm waiting for a nice big Warlock or Rouge nerf; I want to see how you all take it then.
"Oh, well, it's Blizzard's game. They can do whatever they want, ya know? What they took made us overpowered, and they were probably right to take it away."
Yeah right. What WILL happen is you'll all cry like your arm got cut off.
Here the facts of the matter; Blizzard indicated they wouldn't do something, then they did it anyway, stealth patched at that, and they even had the gall to remove the original post, where they said everything would stay as is, out of the forum because (I presume) it would make them look bad.
We all spend, collectively and individually, a lot of money on this game. Now that doesn't mean that I get whatever I want; no, it means I'm paying for a service. A service Bliz provides, and they even determine WHAT that service is. However, that still makes me a customer. That still means I'm entitled to certain things. Politeness, courtesy, and honest being some really simple, low stress expectations. They dropped the ball on all of them, and there is no good reason for it. That's what this is about; not the wolf.
Jan 10th 2008 8:51PM No CC, No Anti-CC, No Aggro Control, Worst Mana Regen coupled with the buffs that need to be cast more often then any other class (it's not like that Windfurry Totem is gonna follow you)
Shaman could use work in a LOT of freaking areas. LB Coefficients and Clearcasting % don't seem to be the grand total of the problem really.
Dec 31st 2007 5:47AM Actually I'd call it as such...
Easy Mode = WoW under normal circusmtances.
Hard Mode = WoW, while playing with Barrens Chat on.
Dec 31st 2007 5:40AM Then...omgwtfbbq...don't read it.
Nov 28th 2007 3:27AM You know...it would be really awesome if you could get a raid group worth of Druids to actually do that, and make it rain bears...
Nov 26th 2007 10:38PM I'm not trying to be crass or snarky, but with the writing on the walls, don't you think it should have been really obvious to drop that douche long before things even kicked off?
I mean...maybe this is a constant problem and I'm just not aware of it, but if someone sucks...and sucks HARD....isn't easier just to drop THOSE people off at the door and PUG someone else?
Nov 26th 2007 10:29PM Now now guys, let's get off of Furiae/2's post's back. I mean, making sure that everyone goes thru a proper grind of repetition versus actual use of game content is very important, and it is certainly a much more viable use of time over working, sleeping, and having a life.
See what I did there? Lrn2TroolNoob.
Oct 24th 2007 3:28PM Why can any class NOT use a gun? You aim it, and pull a switch, it goes boom. That should be the end of the dicussion.
Also; why are only rouges allowed to wear the Defias mask? What happened for everyone else?
"And in other news, another Defias mask accident killed 18 warrior, 7 shaman, and a hunter today, as they all accidently strangled themselves trying to put it on. We'd like to remind our viewers that only rouges know how to look that scruffy and cool."