Feb 4th 2010 2:56PM If Ensidia is so smart and clever a guild as is claimed, they should have figured out that something was wrong with the way the encounter was going. Whether or not they were able to pinpoint the exact cause is not the issue. They knew *something* was wrong, as their own statements admit, but they didn't care. They wanted to win.
Moreover, the logic that Blizzard made a buggy encounter is nonsense. This was not an encounter-breaking bug. Hodir's 2-minute hardmode rendition was mathematically impossible. Ensidia exploited the hell out of it, won it anyway, and received no ban. That is not the case here. They even say in their post that they didn't think the exploit had much to do with their success. Muqq's little sarcastic rant fails to impress simply because the Lich King encounter is functional for all intents and purposes. There was no mathematical obstacle, no grievously horrible encounter mechanics to overcome, as was the case in Tigole's circumstances, and no terrible fault on the part of Blizzard's Q&A. The encounter works, pure and simple, and you can beat it without the exploit.
Ensidia simply saw something that made the encounter easier, even though they probably didn't understand exactly what was causing it. Did they, in their high and mighty righteousness, stop playing, petition a GM, and try to figure out what was going on? Did they make any show of good faith on the part of Blizzard? No. They went ahead with it anyway because they knew from history that there probably wouldn't be any retaliation from Blizzard. Lo and behold, retaliation comes. Now they're all shocked and outraged?
I don't buy it. I, for one, am tired of the hypocrisy coming out from all the high-end guilds. They whine and preach that they want to be challenged, but when the chips are down, when that World First is on the line--a 25-man normal World First, which pales in the significance of World Firsts in Burning Crusade and other eras--they will do anything in their power short of hacking the code to beat the game before anyone else. This attitude pervades the minds of all high-end guilds, and frankly, I'm not exactly in the mood for pity when they've been doing this for years.
As for Blizzard's ban, I think, as other commentators have said, that Blizzard was watching the fight or was able to tell exactly what Ensidia was doing and thought a ban was justified. At best, Ensidia exploited the game knowingly, but without malice. At worst, they were doing something quite seedy and got what they deserved. Either way, Ensidia exploited the game in some way or form and paid the price. Too bad for them. I see little reason to mourn.
Dec 30th 2009 10:32PM Well, there are actually some good reasons as to why the Night Elves demonstrate such loyalty to the Alliance. The Humans and the Orcs are still the respective glue that tie the Alliance and Horde together. They're the faces and leaders of it. The Night Elves had a good experience fighting with Humans against the Legion, whereas their interactions with the Orcs were, um, somewhat mixed to say the least. First impressions are always important.
Every other Alliance member has a beef with pretty much all the other Horde races except the Tauren. The Night Elves detest the Orcs, the Blood Elves, the Trolls, and the Forsaken for some pretty good reasons--at least in their minds. Lo and behold, the Alliance is the same. What better faction to align yourselves with?
Moreover, Night Elf society is poorly understood by most players, who view it through a cliche lens of nature-worshiping, anti-technological spiritualists. While there aren't any particular societal aspects that would unite the Night Elves with the Alliance as a whole, there certainly aren't any aspects that would divide them from it. As different as they might be, Night Elf and Alliance society are pretty compatible. None of their societies show any disrespect for nature, nor do they have some grand objection towards Druidism or Elune. There's nothing in Night Elf societal lore that says you can't cut down trees, use wood, study science, etc. They just are more interested in studying different aspects of the world, and until very recently Night Elves didn't really have much choice in what paths they took. Now that they've been forced to open up to the rest of the world, the Kal'dorei have actually done very well adjusting to it. You see plenty of young, eager Night Elves studying science and other arts that were simply unavailable to them for thousands of years.
As far as the Night Elves are concerned, they've really no social reasons not to join the Alliance, have some good political reasons to join it, and have a very long list of reasons to not join the Horde. Throw in some good personal interactions with its leaders and common folk and voila, you've got a steadfast Alliance member.
Apr 30th 2009 2:07PM @Ackis
I am not addressing the existence of Curse's updater. I am addressing the newly announced/publicized "Premium" version of said updater that is once again refueling and shaping this debate. You know, the feature this article is about.
Please address the actual substance of my comments instead of dwelling on minutiae.
They have every right to charge for their services so long as they do not violate Blizzard's own policies, but that is not the issue. The issue is the hypocritical actions of Curse from the average user's point of view, which is why you've got so many people angrily posting here.
Apr 30th 2009 1:38PM That has nothing to do with what I said.
Apr 30th 2009 1:30PM You can argue all you want about the legalities of WoWMatrix and the costs of bandwidth--which have never been listed or really explained to the general public in any significant detail--but you fail to address the underlying issue that is pissing so many people off:
In effect, Curse and WoWInterface shut down WoW Matrix claiming all they wanted to do was protect and recoup their bandwidth costs. Then a month later or so Curse comes out with a new, paid service that does exactly what WoW Matrix did, except that requires you to fork out extra money just to, in effect, get a convenient update all button.
Ergo, the average Joe sees Curse shutting down (from their point of view) a very capable, streamlined, convenient, and superb addon updater only to cash in on the very business themselves. This, regardless of what their actual motivations are or were, makes Curse a giant hypocrite that is only attempting to exploit and enrich themselves at the expense of others. And the way Curse/WoWInterface treated dissenters on their websites and in other areas on 3.1 Patch Day certainly didn't help their standing with the general public.
You do not help your case when all you say in response to accusations is "Bandwidth costs money." Yes, but the sky is also blue. We know bandwidth costs money, but last I heard Curse has never released any hard financial data to demonstrate just how hard WoW Matrix was hurting them or how much their business was in danger. If it were such an incontrovertible drain on their systems, they could simply release some cold statistics and end the debate altogether.
WoW Matrix might have been the incarnation of the devil, but the rather callous way Curse and Co. have treated everyone else has made them only to be a worse second at best. I know of very few people who were happy to be denied the convenience of WoW Matrix nor anyone who really saw an actual difference on Patch Day, when Curse and WoW Interface were still overloaded and shut down with ungodly amounts of traffic, despite seemingly ridiculous claims from the website administrators saying their bandwidth use had dropped anywhere from 30% to 50% after they'd slain the WoW Matrix beast!
Both sides have used incredibly bad logic and rhetoric to justify their arguments, but WoW Matrix was the one providing a clean, efficient service for the customer without any real hitches, while Curse and WoW Interface (even if they had every right to do what they did) have made themselves out to be simply a bunch of selfish assholes trying to make a little cash on the side.
As for giving money straight to the developers, the average addon developer these days seems to be a self-righteous, over-entitled jerk who hates his constituents. I read many of the comments from addon developers on Patch Day--comments which would have run any other business in the world into the ground within 3 days.
I got such jewels as "In my opinion, users don't deserve any addon support." If any person in the real world had said that, their business would have been destroyed nearly instantly. Arguing that the Internet costs Money while at the same time using the protection of the Internet to act in a manner no rational real-world businessman would emulate is pretty disingenuous, don't you think?
TL;DR, I think everybody in this debate is a selfish hypocrite and I'll keep using whatever services that provide me the greatest reward with the least cost at the time. Go me.
Nov 3rd 2008 7:46PM Have all the topics on the PTR been locked for the past week?
Jun 24th 2008 12:54PM We are all adults here, I presume, yet children have more sense than the lot of you. Children do not speculate wildly and develop mad conspiracy theories based on vague runes in ice. Such is definitely not childish wonder. Children enjoy not knowing things. That's half the fun. Most of the commentators here, on the other hand, all want it to be Diablo III and are trying to make every last piece and fragment of new material be evidence for their patently obvious biases. It's stupid.
Who knows! It could very well be Diablo III, but if it isn't? What then?
I have no idea what's going on with the splash screens, and I don't pretend to know. Instead of reading tea leaves and trying to discern secret spiritual messages by viewing the ice at certain angles and hues, I'm just going to enjoy being teased and wait patiently for the revelation that is going to come one way or another. Whatever it is I highly doubt it will disappoint. *That* is "childish wonder," with a bit of maturity and common sense to boot.
Jun 24th 2008 11:32AM Holy cow! I've never seen such rampant theorizing since...oh, the last splash screen!
Geez, be patient and stop making yourselves look like fools. Trying to find secret messages in the ice? Purple monsters and grid patterns? Anonymous sources and tips coming out of the woodwork? My goodness. Whatever will be announced will be announced very soon. You're all acting like children.
Until then, go back to discussing really important conspiracy theories, like ones about aliens invading the earth! I see crop circles in that photograph!
*goes off laughing*
Mar 30th 2008 2:56PM Or....
Maybe Blizzard is just making fun of the typical RPG stereotype of (extremely) pretty-boy Elves.
Just a thought.
Mar 24th 2008 10:21PM Maintenance posts aren't usually posted very early in the morning on the Pacific Coast. Last week the notice wasn't posted until 1:30a PST, 4:30 EST, and that was just for regular maintenance.
So the fact that there isn't an maintenance post yet is also irrelevant. We shall have to wait and see.