Aug 17th 2009 8:35AM No, I don't care. Blizzard has lost much of my my respect and interest after seeing what they've done to WOW and how they treat (formerly) loyal customers over the last two years.
Jun 14th 2009 5:54PM I would comment in the affirmative on your comment about how this level of emotional involvement in a piece of entertainment software goes to show how far removed from the basics of life that many people in the western world are today, but I'd fear for the repercussions. :)
Jun 14th 2009 5:50PM To all those frothing at the mouth about Karate's supposed heinous breaking of the EULA, specifically:
"(iii) Anything that Blizzard considers contrary to the "essence" of the Game. ""
a) Blizzard seems to changes their stance on what "the essence of the same is" from patch to patch, besides, something that is so vaguely worded with not specific description of WHAT THE ESSENCE OF THE GAME IS has rubber paragraph written all over it, to be interpreted by whatever GM gets to handle cases.
b) "contrary to the essence" goes far out the window when you have the item from a GM, who obviously represents the company putting down the EULA in the first place.
I'm sorry for the guy, having been a loyal customer for 4 years, and Blizzard permbans him for something that has its basis in a slipup of one of their own employees.
If i saw 159 days of play time go our the window like that, It'd be murder.
Jun 14th 2009 10:51AM Voted up so that the whining, irresponsible kiddies that can't be bothered to think once they see a "shiny!" won't shoot the truthful messenger.
May 13th 2009 6:29AM Ditto. Odd thing is a friend of mine sitting next to me can get in fine (same landline, different accounts).
May 7th 2009 10:11AM wobin, thank you for contributing to the debate in a sober and constructive fashion!
And yes, the removal of distribution license / author info / copyright info by WOWmatrix needs to go, no dispute there.
May 7th 2009 9:45AM "What's hard to understand? Nothing. And you wonder why we're upset... "
I'm starting to wonder if my posts are written in the digital version of invisible ink.
May 7th 2009 8:58AM Jonathan:
"No offense, but all you Wowmatrix supporters are idiots. You have no idea what you're talking about. "
I'm not taking offense of this, for one reason that I don't consider myself a WOWmatrix supporter (though many would certainly disagree because I'm committing the heresy of not eating the Curse/WOWi raw), second because someone whose opening line is an insult cannot be taken seriously.
Anyway, thanks for clearly illustrating making my point that the Curse/WOWi supporters are a bunch of arrogant, condescending pr*cks, as much as some WOWmatrix users are pig-ignorant. Maybe you don't understand this, but it is exactly the attitude you display here that is the problem inherent to the handling of the WOWm/Curse-WOWi issue, and you and others that resort to flames first are destroying not only your own case, but sincere attempts to get to the bottom of this matter.
May 7th 2009 8:52AM Logan, thats not true. Thing is that Curse and WOWi (and their respective precursors) has for a long time provided a developer framework and feedback system.
The problem as I see it is that they have refused to acknowledge that the core of the matter is that their add-on management client have for lack of a better word, sucked, and that is why people are using WOWMatrix on such a large scale. In regards to this recent debate, the problem has been that the discussion has been poisoned by more mud and venom directed at the WOWmatrix crowd than you can shake a stick at, which despite that the C/Wi parties are probably jutified in their disdain, only served to muddy the waters for those of us who had an interest in finding out what really happened.
I myself spent over some 6 hours reading the WOWi forums (and relevant links) before I had a somewhat clear image of what transpired to cause this mess. What pains me is not only that the WOWi crowd has been shooting themselves in the foot with a 12-gauge but not boiling the whole issue down in an article or FAQ to explain it all, on their front page (but instead leavign the full puzzle scattered across the forums in numerous posts and threads), but also that it now seems that have not played as fairly as they have implied, by withholdding details of the attempted WOWMatrix amelioration (which they at least admit took place, but cut out two thirds of the content of in their summary), but also that I (and anyone else actually researching this) have had to wade through a veritable sewer of mud, venom and brimstone to find out something that can easily be summarised in a not-too long post, including links to material backing up the allegations against WOWmatrix.
Lastly, what is also a problem with the opponents of WOWmatrix is the impression that they consider themselves to be the holy keepers of the WOW add-on community, when it's clear that the WOWmatrix success is entirely based on their failure to produce a well-working add-on managements client (and to those who would shrug this off: please don't insult our intelligences by implying the distribution of the final product in an easy and painless manner is irrelevant to add-on authors). This is so blatantly obvious that it need to be spelled out.
May 7th 2009 8:34AM Shadoweric, you get props for boiling the case down so succintly and without venom, but I have to repeat myself: Most of what you say I'm not disputing or excusing at all.
Again, your post gave the impression that it has been standard practise all along for add-on developers to get at 20% part of the turnover, which as you and I agree, has only recently been instituted. That developers may have known of it for months doesn't count towards that, unless Curse will offer these cuts retroactively.